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PHONEY corpIRATE Shills unCANDIDates Xposed in Best Debate YET!
by KucitiZEN Buddy+ Others Thursday December 11, 2003 at 06:42 AM
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Is this the Turning Point? The force of True Ideas RIPPLES through the "Game" reality as Crowd Cheers as Focus Moves on Forward toward substantive issues! One BS detectives analysis, eg; as Edwards Vogued, Lieberman contradicts himself within ONE sentence, Koppel points out deception by the Doctor, It's Obscene when Dean says He will? STOP THE WAR machine, Gephardt seems to want to hug a vote out of ya" and ALSHARPton finishes off Ted KopPOLL saying SNLive headlines are higher than nightline, BELIEVE Me, WATCH THIS,RealPlayer link in full story!

PHONEY corpIRATE Shi...
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Let's go back to Clinton/Gore and not Be Brave enough to try something More to get to the Core, Stop ALL War and Help the Poor in 2004,NO Bossism,NO more,the People of the Web know the Score, it's so Imperative though will go Door to Door.

You know some of the candidates know the score, as Especially EdGepLiebWards rambled on to hold the floor as in a corner they knew they were.

ONE would NOT get the interest or viewership if the so-called "vanity" candidates left not only are they genuine and voicing necessary options they are real so thats refrehing and entertaining, beleive me one and All are happy when your solving problems and giving hope.

Al and Dennis's fire are inconvenient and a threat,to status quo and A Big Corporation who employs the moderator.Truth Reverberates and Illuminates the need to Move-on forward away from "Game" reality, that Man bhind the curtain keeps trying to reclose and sooth with smooth talkin operators, or even a resort to fear driven tactics as used by the repugnicants, Edwards seemed really frantic when describing "cells' here at home as respectable carol-Moseley Braun looked on increduously on a couple Questions.

Lieberman said he voted for the war ,but said he is aganst the occupation and then said we need to win this, HEY JOE you can no more win a war than win an Eartquake.

Koppel pointed out the deception by the Doctor when he tried to get away with saying most all of this debate we been talking about Iraq, Ted corrected him, and when ted complimented him, did ya' catch Dean preen? and why given his profession the evidence out there shows he has no interest in alternative healthcare or non-profit health care which alot of people in that business are pushing now,
BREAKING I'm listening to a c-span feed of the debate right now and that part where Deans says we got 12mins left and all we been talking about is Iraq just came on and the correction by koppel has ,I think been scrubbed off this copy, if anyone can double check, or find a stream that has it ,POST it up!, I have a copy on cassette tape and heard a reference to it in an article from a boston paper.
Previous post raising awareness on Dean,+great paper written in 1917.
I think Deans trying to keep the Occupation from becoming THE issue cause he kNOWs Dennis can rock him when he's on a roll ,becuse he always is so FOcused.
http://www.twincities.indymedia.org/newswire/display/15350/index.php
Gephardt tries real hard but the gesturing Kind of makes one feel their something lacking or compromised as it seems like he need sqeeze ,hug ,massage or headlock ya' to get the vote.
Lieberman tries to Hit some themes and is a fairly good speaker,in fact almost as many hits as his website gits, he just seemed a little desperate and unstable.

Clark is scary,Why/ I'm not sure if I really want to know, But whats even scary is that peolpe are listening, he talked about being Lethal and what was that about going to the Moon/,and yeah he wants to Win an Earthquake too.
"i'm a product of the military industrial complex Eisenhower warned you about," quote from
Clark's True Colors by Matt Taibbi,captivating writer
http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20031215&s=taibbi and a KEEPER on Clark at http://www.dissidentvoice.org
Kerry is tough, sometimes verge on meanness, and brings up forceful points,in a commanding speech style, but since Dennis is even tougher in a fairer, more actualized,unflappable and yet kind Understanding way <Ive never wavered even before he announced was doing posts sharing his Ideas, and Kerry seems more to be speeking to them men Behind the scenes to build the leader,electable image so the election can be Fixed behind the scenes, to change brands but continue down the empire path, as Mike Ruppert warns about on his site,regarding trying to find some one who appears liberal like Clinton and so is able to convince the People to move on Saudi Arabia now. Every one is aware of the Bones society, Convince me its Ok to change one for anOTHER>

HERE IS LINK to video of debate or clips
http://www.kucinich.us

WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANT? cool mp3 song with peter russell and here is my TESTIMOmentumIAL for DENNIS JOHN KUCINICH
http://www.ursaminor.org/projects/what_do_we_want/what_do_we_really_want.html
speech given at gathering friday on public square before main speeches,dagmar,the japanese lady and especially dale miller gave excellent speeches and jonathan's remarks on his Xpeeriences on the road and the point that peace already exists in just needs help in manifesting by compassion and the opening of hearts

What these wonderful beautiful walkers are accomplishing is phenomenal, historical, inspiring and legendary, a mobilizing snowball potential, in support I wrote the best testimonial i could for dennis kucinich,
DJK is the leading spokesperson for the movements of global peace,environmental protection,economic justice,social justice,living wages,universal health care and education.the other candidates and supporters are about a new personality cult or brand name to be marketed and sold to passive voters. dennisspeaks to activism and grassroots to assist ,join in and take back our country.REAL people in charge again, this is not about one person,Each is the Architect of this World,Become the President of your own Life,Future. Genuiness,Integrity,Independence of the individual in enlightened service of All for One and One for All.
Bush and the irrepublicansponsibility party are heading in the wrong direction at 65mph, DNC candidates will only slow that down to 45mph going the wrong way!
Peace is a civil right, a condition of Peace allows all other rights to flourish and be guaranteed.
Peace = Sustainability, Sustainability IS Profitable
Dennis and his constituency will slash the bloated military budget by 15%, HE IS the Only one saying this, He will reign in on corporate dominance of our future, NAFTA and GATT don't work for people, the evidence is striking in the lost jobs.
more people protested than ever before, people who neverraised their voice did this time proving progressive real reform is desired
He is inspiring enough to bring non-voters to come into the process.
he is the only one acknowledging the Psywarfare tactics of fear and keeping people onedge and apart, this is not good for individual health, communal health, trust ,aliveness will fower as fear ends and hope begins, Happiness is needed for a robust economic life and necessary for growth, Happiness is also mentioned TWICE in the Declaration of Independence!!!
a FIsT or an OPEN hand?
as each of us chooses so becomes the WORLD--

DENNIS!'s excellent writings share ideas,concerns and HOPEs for reBUILDing this LAND and Intellectual Landscape, so WE can be enthusiastic that this CruiseShip USA proSEEDS full steam ahead in good and just directions/Paths. he is the only CANDIDate who REALly Cares, Thinks and Speaks from the Heart. We do not need anymore incrementalist thinking or CONtrived market researched platforms or poSITions. Many are NOW AWAKE and Quantum Leaps FORWARD are NOW possible,Necessary,vital and Yearned for, the enemy is an OUTdated MindSet, and Reductionist assumptions about the magical and BLESSed Human Race.

here is the leadup to the poem:

NO KNEE-JERK NEGATIVITY, NO BOOKIE MENTALITY
conVENTIONAL THINKING = NO CHANCE? con VENTIONAL THINKING GOT US INTO THIS MESS
NO LOWERING OF EXPECTATIONS NO REDUCTIONIST THINKING
OR CYNICISM MASQUERADING AS WISDOM
OBSERVER INFLUENCES WHAT IS OBSERVED , UNLIMITED POSSIBILITIES IF WE CONTRIBUTE WITH INTENTION , CLARITY AND VISION, HERE IS LIVING PROOF ONE AND ALL MUST KKEP THEIR HOPES AND DREAMS ALIVE, that young girl from utah got back HOME!

Poem for Elizabeth and the unofficial USA+, the unofficial web of smiles

Doing our Homework to get back HOME
a young lady named Smart came back Home
gone 9 months, the gestation period
Now a New Life , beautiful, Serious
the message of this is THUS
IT's JUST its Time its just in time
Heartsmart people take charge of this Earth Home
Intelligence, Benevolence, understanding FORWARD up to Throne

this is a question I had prepared to ask at the Case interactive discussion:

"I have a question that regards a point you made in your speech in your appearance with Danny Glover and Barbara Lee in California
But I have to say it was great connecting wth you and your lively campaign staff at the east side office last week, and it's been seventeen years since I first met you when you attended my Grandfather's funeral. And then over the next three days I participated in three events with the wonderful Walkers who are spreading your message and the message of peace across the country. Now, I believe it's been the third time my neighbors and I have watched your gala speech at Kucinichwatch.com, which is a great audio/video anthology, not even affiliated with the campaign. The part that stuck (and once again your crystal clear analysis moved me to go to the Cleveland Heights Library, call it up, and take notes) regards your observations about pragmatism and idealism. And which of these has moved America forward, and I think this is what sets you apart from the DNC candidates, the "Corporate" candidates.

Talking points:
Regarding department of peace: When discussing defense issues, wars, etc., if the department of peace had a representative along with the Pentagon and the administration in the formulation of policy, it's quite possible on the news shows that these voices would be granted interviews giving the public more options. As we know, 80-90% of the guests are either from the administration or are ex-military and I'm sure that there are studies that point this out, we're over innundated with people that are talking up war for selfish or profit-motivated reasons, and they say that if the news media had done their job, we would not have had this war. Democracy breathes upon the informed consent of the governed.

I like it that you're the only one talking about the manipulation of peoples' emotions as a necessary control mechanism for unpopular policies. One individual's thoughtful, caring, intellingent dissent is considered suspect when manipulating the minds and emotions is okay. There is an indian proverb that reflects what you've been saying. Basically it goes like this:
"The elder sees that the student has two wolve3s in conflict inside of him. One is the wolf of fear, anger and despair. The other is the wolf of love, hope and giving. The student asks "whch one will win out?" the elder replies, "whichever one you feed."


WE ARE OURSELVES A LABOR OF LOVE.EVEN OUR MATERIAL BODIES,THE LEAST PART OF US,ARE FASHIONED FROM LIVING STARDUST THE SAME ENERGY THAT PULSES IN THE HEarts OF STARS PULSATES QUIETLY IN OUR OWN WRISTS.
potential futures philosopher-Diane Harvey from the meaning of Labor http://rense.com/general13/labor .htm
spirit and stardust- http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v12n3/12319kuc.html
Soul of the Worker-http://www.kucinich.us/speeches/speech9.htm
Breaking the sPELL of fear:
http://www.kucinich.us/speeches/speech15.htm

UNUSUAL rare speech by kucinich
http://www.brightpathvideo.com
please read all u can by DIane at rense.cm columnists section especially about the media and carton-like MEMES in her article Juggernaut Rising-The Disintegration of Dystopia
as many Wise, more Rise UP, cause the skies UP not falling chicken
1917Timeless analysis http://www.afn.org/~vetpeace/madness.html
want to love laugh live life so well death would tremble to take you up search SWAMI BEYONDANANDA state of the universe speech or his declaration of all out peace!
you will learn the Hokey-pokey
if any wealthy philanthropic citizens are the least bit MOVED by any of this
hoOK DENNIS UP WITH SOME DOUGH,LETS GO! LET MY PEOPLE GO!
CULTUREJAMCLEVELAND AND JEFF t. PORTER HAPPY ALCHEMY

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Frogs=Quantum LEAP!
by KucitiZEN Buddy+ Others Thursday December 11, 2003 at 06:42 AM
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Frogs=Quantum LEAP!...
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this is about kids and happy bday to my Grandmother THE WONDERful Mildred Gale
I love this town thanks to all my gudes!

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she's 95!
by jeff Thursday December 11, 2003 at 06:49 AM
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crossword puzzles rye bread horse radish beets work smiles and laying with here on the soft grass imagining what shapes and forms we imagined in the passing clouds amongst the blue blue sky

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