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Speak Out the Day After the Elections!
Nov. 3rd, 4pm, Public Square

On Nov. 2nd they say we have a choice between George W. Bush and John
Kerry, a Republican vs. a Democrat. But how much of a choice do we really
have when we're surrounded by poverty in the poorest city in the U.S., the
occupation of Iraq continues admits lies and death, healthcare costs are
soaring, good jobs are hard to come by, and our schools are in horrible
shape?

Come be part of a massive public discussion the day after the elections.
Speak your mind on these important issues or ones of your own. Unlike the
Vice Presidential debates in Cleveland last week, everyone is invited!

Contact gradio@riseup.net for more info, flyers to help promote this
event, or to get in touch.

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PUBLIC SPEAK OUT THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTIONS!

On Nov. 2nd they say we have a choice between George W. Bush and John
Kerry, a Republican vs. a Democrat. But how much of a choice do we really
have when we're surrounded by poverty in the poorest city in the U.S., the
occupation of Iraq continues admits lies and death, healthcare costs are
soaring, good jobs are hard to come by, and our schools are in horrible
shape?

Come be part of a massive public discussion the day after the elections.
Speak your mind on these important issues or ones of your own. Unlike the
Vice Presidential debates in Cleveland last week, everyone is invited!

Contact gradio@riseup.net for more info, flyers to help promote this
event, or to get in touch.

WHAT:
Speak out the day after the elections!

WHEN:
Wednesday, November 3
People gathered and megaphones available starting at 4PM

WHERE:
Downtown, Public Square
Intersection of Ontario and Superior

WHO:
Anyone who has something to say about what our politicians in power are
doing at home and abroad and how we’re affected by it. AND THAT’S
EVERYONE!

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err, if I could make a suggestion?

Rather than spend any effort in organizing a "day after" event...

work instead to get Bush out of office.

Ohio is going to decide the election. You are in the heart of the monster. The whole world is watching, (and hoping)...

Solidarity, The World

Kerry is Everything Wrong w/America - QuickFix - No Immagination

One Day of a J Kerry Presidency and all of the anti-empire organizing of the last 10 years will be vanquished – undone.

4 more years of GW Bush and the USA will be ruined – 3 cheers!

2 more years of Bush and 90 percent of the world will hate the USA Regime (and its corporate monsters) instead of the measly 70 percent that we now see. Regime change should start globally. With Bush’s help the world may just fight back fast. Let’s have the UN with one vote per country (and no vetoes) draw up an entire new world of sharing (NWS) to replace the New World Order of Reagan-Thatcher-Clinton-Blair-Bush/Kerry. Make this new world of sharing based on the 3Ds: Devolving, Decentralization and Local Democratic Planning. This global peace plan would be enforced upon the USA and wealthier nations by the power of the people in the streets and armed for war. The choice will be the great disaster or sharing our way into a survivable future.

There are great questions before us all. But given the way that we think about questions there are no answers. Outside of the BOX (of our programmed brainwashing – sometimes called education) – who knows what answers are possible.

7 more days of Bush ( or countdown to THE January 20 CORONATION) AND AT LEAST 10 MILLION AMERICANS – MOSTLY BETWEEN 15 AND 38 YEARS OF AGE – WILL CALL THEMSELVES REVOLUTIONARIES. PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD WILL BEGIN TO UNITE AGAINST 4 MORE YEARS of Bush – Blair Barbarian Brutality – THE 4 Bs. A real global movement will have no choice but to press on.

Liberals, anarchists and radicals ( greens too!) are just dumb or out-to-lunch with Dr. Fear if they do not vote the Jr. Devil Bush back into office. Think of it as putting Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld in prison – keep the criminals right where we can interrogate (terrorize) them until the Criminal Tribunals can be set up to condemn them. Truth can triumph over the shaky foundation of lies that sustain the Empire (Corporate Capitalist Corruption – the 3 Cs) – BUT NOT IF PEOPLE SWWALLOW THE LIES OF KERRY AND THE CURRENT GENETICALLY MODIFIED CROP OF DEMOCRATIC PARTY BUFFOONS.

JOIN THE GLOBAL REVOLUTION - don’t be left out and don’t think that there is nothing you can do except to vote for Bush or the other chimp chump. Block the polling booths in liberal districts, build solidarity with the Venezuelan Bolivarian Revolution, connect with real revolutionaries in Europe, support the Iraqi insurgents and encourage everyone to come out in the streets to stop politics and business as usual.

Vote Bush because as the masterfully creative bums at CRIMETHINK Tell us:

Disasters throw everything into disarray and into question: the wide world reasserts that anything is indeed possible, and we find ourselves tossed out of our prisons, ready or not, shivering on the sidewalk before the ruins. In these new conditions, we can become heroes, work and witness miracles, suffer tragedies rather than mere indignities; we find ourselves fully engaged, thankful for each other and everything we have, We don’t live in the Disaster, but in encampments at its edge—yes, in a state of ongoing disasters and difficulties, but nothing compared to the misery of life in the Disaster area proper. We don’t fall for popular propaganda about disasters; we’re conducting our own experiments with them. We don’t have to wait for catastrophe to strike to enjoy its benefits—we can throw a disaster any time we like. And we are.

The world is coming to an end… the days are numbered. Where you are, you can’t even imagine what it will be like when the bottom hits.

What comes next is up to us. Every morning we wake up, sweat and bleed to put an exact duplicate of the previous day’s world in its place. We need not do this, but we do, out of fear, or despair, or psychotically deluded petty ambition, or sheer stubborn lack of imagination. At any moment we could all stop paying rent and going to work—nothing could stop us if we all deserted together—and rebuild society from scratch without landlords or loan payments. It’s not police or politicians that keep the wheels turning and the bodies burning, it’s our own compliance and complacency, not to mention lack of faith in each another.

No one has to argue for the destruction of the middle class—it’s already destroyed: it is the class of people laid waste by their own materialism and duplicity, suffering emotional and psychological consequences to which any psychiatrist can attest. This nightmare exists precisely to the extent that we invest ourselves in it—every day we work for it, buy from it, and stake our lives on it, we are buying into the protection racket that keeps it the only game in town. The turning point for each individual is the turning point of society, in miniature. Don’t ask when or whether that point will come, but how you can reach yours; if you can get there yourself, everyone else can too. When you really start to go for it, when your actions open a bona fide portal to another way of life, others will come out of hiding and join in.

Did you think you were the only one going crazy?

Ten thousand sleeper cells wait for the point of critical mass to arrive, ready to spring into action with their own yearnings to breathe free and private scores to settle, desperate for a war to fight in that really matters, a love to fall in that can command their attention.

Everyday each of us puts off taking the risks we know we need to take, waiting for the right moment to come or for someone else to go first or just feeling too beaten to try, we have the blood on our hands of every suicide who couldn’t hold out any longer, every ruined love affair that couldn’t endure in the vacuum, every sensitive desperado artist buried inside the corpse of a miserable service industry employee. Next time the end of the world comes, we won’t be paralyzed, watching it on television. We’ll be out there deciding for ourselves what comes next, cutting down the transmitter poles with chainsaws if need be to get others to join us. Say your last words now, and start from there with whoever joins in.

Harbinger: The Fifth Communiqué – Some Run For Cover ( Kerry), We run to… (fight?)

http://www.crimethinc.com/

The Great Delusion - Kerrycrats and the War
By ALEXANDER COCKBURN
http://www.counterpunch.com/cockburn10282004.html

I asked one usually radical friend of mine, now a Kerrycrat, how she could support a fellow who pledges a “better”, wider war in Iraq and then a march on Teheran. “Oh” she said airily, “you can’t believe anything a candidate will say.”

From where we sit, here at mission control, CounterPunch hq, voting for John Kerry now is like voting for LBJ in 1964 with full precognition of what he was going to do in Vietnam for the next four years. By all means vote for the guy if you think your ballot will really count in keeping Ralph Nader out of the White House, but don’t do so with the notion that all along John Kerry has been holding a secret withdrawal plan close to his chest and that his first three months in office will see the US Marines haul down the colors from the US embassy in Baghdad, scoop Ambassador Negroponte off the roof and head for home.

You doubt this, Kerrycrats? Take a look at what realistic right-wingers are saying. Here for example is Edward Luttwak, no fool. Last weekend Luttwak, currently ensconced at Washington’s Center for Strategic and International Studies, had an article in Britain’s conservative Sunday Telegraph, whose editors gave his piece the headline, “John Kerry will make his adoring anti-war groupies look like fools”.

Luttwak reckons that Kerry is credible in those pledges to Wall Street and the bankers to cut the deficit. (So much for any hopes of any job creation at home.) But “to support him in the hope that he would make American military policy more doveish is absurd. All the evidence is that he will do the exact opposite.”
Luttwak rolls out his case:

“He has declared that he wants to increase the US Army by two divisions, more than the total of Continental Europe's intervention troops. That too is a credible promise, in part because Iraq has exposed an acute shortage of ground forces and an excess of navy and air force personnel. But beyond any specific policy positions, there is Kerry, the very combative man.

“In the televised debates, when President Bush spoke of ‘defeating terrorism’, Kerry invariably spoke of ‘killing the terrorists’. This was not just an electoral pose: the words accurately reflect the character of the man. … he is a fighter, and a ferocious one. I am quite certain that if Kerry had been president on September 11 he would have reacted more violently than Bush, sending bombers into Afghanistan, not just Special Forces scouts, and demanding immediate co-operation - or else - from Saudi Arabia, not just Pakistan. European anti-militarists have really picked the wrong guy as their hero.

oh give me a break. you gotta be some middle class kid who's never had it hard in your life. the concept that making it worse it make people rise up doesn't hold true. it was pretty bad under hitler and you didn't see the germans rising up did you?

besides, this mentality is based on the thought that people don't understand shit and that you have THE ANSWERS (tm). this is utter bullshit and if you spent any time talking to people off your college campus you would realize that people know that they're being oppressed. typically what they're lacking is hope. and with your condescending attitude you definately aren't helping with that. another thing that is typically missing is an idea of what they would be struggling to accomplish.

fuck this elitist attitude of "the people are sheep" and "we need to wake people up". why don't you get off your high horse and do some real work with some real people.

OK, I think you're a little delusional. Do you really tink keeping Bush and Co in a position of power will cause people to rise up? People become only too comfortable with the status quo. That's why Dubya needs to be unseated. We need a change. Bush is crazy and also Pro-Israelil due to his Radical Zionist Chrisitan base. Do you want him to enrage the Palestinians even more? Do you want the whole world to hate us? Do you want an even bigger deficit that the younger generation must pay? Do you want 4 more years of The Smirk? Then by all means, vote Bush.

I hate to admit it, but Kerry has been much more pro-Israel than Bush is. Don't get me wrong, neither of them give a shit about Palestine, but Bush is the only one who has at least mentioned it by name.

Fuck partisan politics.

Thank you !

Ready for a New Imperial World Order ?

Some might have missed the larger picture of why a "day after" event is important. It was framed as an event that would have significance regardless of what president gets (s)elected. It was NOT asserting that they both are equally horrible politicians, but that it's irrelevant in the long run. Sure Kerry might be a lesser-of-two-evils, but so what? The event was meant to assert that everyone should have a voice in politics -- and it allowed everyday people to speak out and articulate their thoughts... which you can't do in any detailed manner in the ballot booth. I'm sure some of the people who attended the event voted and some maybe didn't. It's not to denegrate either position, but to say that there's something greater in the horizon we also need to be focued on... how do we create a democracy in the US? The speak-out was held to convey the opinion that we need to do more than just voting.

Don't just vote, resist!
Dana

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