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Neo Nazis to March in Toledo!
by Ratboy
Friday, Oct. 07, 2005 at 2:50 AM
oldnirty2000@yahoo.com
A neo nazi group will be marching in toledo ohio saturday oct.15
The Neo NAZI National Socialist Movement will be marching in North Toledo, apredominantly black and polish neighborhood on Saturday oct. 15. The time is not yet specified. They have a chapter here with 2 members,but haven'tbeen active til recently when alocal white man allegedly had confrontations with black gangs and shot at them! This looks like it wil be Big! On one of the members websites http://www.overthrow.com it mentions that Matt hales World Church of the creator will be there as well as Blood and Honour USA skins! We really need people to come down here and resist these fuckers! There are reportedly already nazis here being housed by racist locals and walking around trying to recruit residents! Please anyone who can make it come down!!! We only have a small anarchist/radical community here and need a hand! solidarity & @utonomy Ratboy
Editor
by Subcomandante Bob
Monday, Oct. 10, 2005 at 2:27 PM
codependentcollegian@yahoo.com
Be sure to check out live continuous coverage of Nazifest 2005 at Toledo Tales: http://www.toledotales.blogspot.com/
www.toledotales.blogspot.com/
time????
by martikal
Tuesday, Oct. 11, 2005 at 5:33 PM
when time is confirmed, please inform us via cols indymedia site (cbusimc.org)!!!! we've got a group interested in coming up!
any planned action? meeting place?? details of counter action is greatly appreciated. thank you!
cbusimc.org
bill white
by anon
Wednesday, Oct. 12, 2005 at 12:36 AM
press release on nsm's website gives this info:
Contact: Bill White 540-798-1393
leave him 'welcoming' voice mails!
Demo time
by oldpunk
Wednesday, Oct. 12, 2005 at 1:40 AM
The counter demo is at 8:30 am at manhattan plaza near manahttan and stickney ave. on the north end on saturday oct.15 Please come out and stop the nazis!!!
counter demo
by v
Wednesday, Oct. 12, 2005 at 11:57 AM
we can really use the help if anyone can can make it out here. If you don't know toledo and need directions let us know and we can post them.
Also, if anyone wants to come up and needs a place to crash , we can take care of that as well.
Anti-Racist Action Boston Exposed!
by Flipside
Wednesday, Oct. 12, 2005 at 5:02 PM
Anti-Racist-Action are a pack of Commie vandals posing as heroes.
They claim to oppose racism, but their real purpose is to disrupt any legal gathering, protest, or any objection to Leftist or Israeli parades, marches, and events by instigating riots. They function on a passive aggressive principle. When unable to provoke their targetted opponents they throw things at the police, hoping to instigate mass arrests and event-disrupting tear gassings. Then they do an Indymedia reportback because they are, of course, friends and acquaintances of IMC. They pose as an unrelated and objective third party. This is laughably incompatible with their profile and organizational beliefs:
ARA Profile and Beliefs:
ARA began as an antiracist skinhead organization but became a gay-transformist race marxist club much like the Dead Kennedys. They use the specter of racism as a hype to exert social control on various public and private institutions and to excuse their idiotic and destructive behavior. Like 1960's panhandling gone awry, this is protest gone awry.
ARA hypocritically organize as anarcho-communists yet (like Scientology) threaten lawsuits when described unfavorably by outsiders or when their relationships to local communist bookstores are reported. In this and in membership criteria and action they are censorious.
When they are not stalking, they base their planning on information or brokerage provided by racial defense groups such as Hatewatch, SWC, ADL, SPLC, or Political Research Associates -- groups with an intelligence agency dual function. *(This is referenced at the end of the article.)
ARA is affiliated with the Revolutionary groups, ABCF, NEFAC, FRAC, FNB, SPUSA, WWP and also the individuals Rory McGowan (FRAC) and Mark Laskey (NEFAC).
Boston ARA's address was listed on the http://www.antiracistaction.ca/network9172002.html as
Sabate Anarchist Collective P.O. Box 230685 Boston, MA 02123, USA Sabate36@juno.com
SAC (extinct) is comprised of its founder: Mark Laskey who runs NEFAC, operates The Lucy Parsons Center, and has proprietary coverage by Boston IMC's editorial collective.
ARA Structure:
ARA's structure is a campus-fed anarcho-communist club organized in cells. These cells organize and start riots and author content claiming to be an oppressed dissent group if not a minority group by reason of their beliefs and ideals. They alternately bill themselves as an "anti-fascist" organization, which means they are like Spartacus or any militant communist group. They are communitarian in the gang sense of the word, organizing mobs to flyer various towns in response to perceived offenses which may -- but rarely do -- include the random posting of a lone racist photocopy in town of no consequence.
The average ARA member and cell is anonymous, autonomous, cowardly (brave only in a group), internationalist and anti-nationalist youth oriented, violent, dependent upon Indymedia and on racist gatherings for venue. They are not only reactive but preemptive. They label events as racist or fascist whenever it is convenient or necessary to generate an event or add themselves to the protest rider. Their cells are secretive, paranoid, and exclusive. Here is an example of a letter to a new prospective member:
Subject: Request to mailing list Ara-support rejected From: ara-support-bounces@lists.mutualaid.org To: XXXXXX@XXXXXXX.com Date: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Your request to the Ara-support mailing list
Subscription request
has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the following reason for rejecting your request:
"this is a closed list that is used for communicating information about or pertaining to anti-fascist political prisoners and prisoners of war. If you can prove who you are, and what A.R.A. collective that you are affililiated with, then you can be added. sorry for the "assholeish" nature of this, but sometime our work dictates a bit more security consciousness."
Any questions or comments should be directed to the list administrator at:
ara-support-owner@lists.mutualaid.org
ARA are: --Confrontational and vigilantist. --Communists who add homophobia, sexism, classism, McCarthyism and capitalism to the ever-growing list of race crimes.
ARAs like: --books by Noel Ignatiev, Tim Wise, Ward Churchill
ARA do: --Wear pretentious clothing and cry wolf like the Guardian Angels. --Wear black masks to escape punishment for illegal activity. --Disbelieve in privacy or freedom of speech for others. --Engage in physical assault. --Disturb legally held gatherings, thereby violating the First Amendment. --Make money selling rebellious stickers and hokey trinkets.
ARA have advocated: --homosexual marriage --illegally shutting down through physical interference all family planning clinics that do not provide abortions (ARA New Jersey) --banning "hate speech" by use of force and intimidation --brainwashing university instructors by using ARA training and screening programs
ARA have said things like: --"We will be organizing in several different contingents with various risk levels and levels of political and tactical unity." (Michigan ARA) http://michiganimc.org/newswire/display/136/index.php
ARA have engaged in: --stalking --bogus lawsuit threats --picketing peoples' homes --rioting
In conclusion, here is presented a description of ARA by a troll. His joke is not wide of the mark:
What the ARA really is by MTBB Thursday September 18, 2003 at 07:45 AM
The ARA is basically a group of cowardly, masked, unemployed, uneducated, drug addicted street scumoid miscreants. They panhandle for spare change so they can afford more drugs or alcohol for consumption to help them forget of how useless they really are. If they do not make enough money from begging that day, they dig through BFI garbage dumpsters to search for leftovers of rats, mice, feces, and half eaten fly infested food. They sleep in garbage bins also as its good to have a food source close to where they live. They are against soap and water and do not take baths as standing next to one of them can easily tell this from the stink they give off. They wear many layers of clothing even in the hot summer to hide their skinny bodies and needle marked chicken bone arms. They only act tough in person when they outnumber their opponents 10-1, and even then they run when confronted. The everyday working person looks at them in digust and laughs at the very sight of these pathetic losers. Anti-racism is a cancerous creed. It's spiritual syphilis: It rots the brain, and infects and decays the bones and organs of a thinking, creative, healthy society. In the name of "tolerance" and "diversity", all questioning, debate or dissent are gagged in an orgy of intolerance. They smear what they fear! http://thunderbay.indymedia.org/news/2003/09/8698_comment.php
ARA Website: http://www.antiracistaction.us/pn/
* Reference:
http://lists.mutualaid.org/pipermail/redblackflag/2002-May/000036.html
[RedBlackFlag] Fwd: [Friends of NEFAC] Antifas in York - article in Intelligence Report Pierre-Luc pluck at dojo.tao.ca Mar 7 Mai 23:02:21 EDT 2002
* Message précédent: [RedBlackFlag] Fwd: [Friends of NEFAC] Behind the twenty-first century Intifada * Message suivant: [RedBlackFlag] Fwd: [Friends of NEFAC] One People's Project: May 11 Info * Messages triés par: [ date ] [ thread ] [ objet ] [ auteur ]
Forwarded From: Robert Augman <mvcot at hotmail.com>
> Hey NEFAC, Barricada, ARA, and others, > I just caught this piece of commentary on the York antifas demo that was > widely written about in anarchist/anti-racist/anti-fascist publications, > websites, etc. This commentary is from the magazine Intelligence Report. > Intelligence Report is the magazine of the Southern Poverty Law Center. They > report on hate groups in the US. This commentary is from their Spring 2002 > (#105) issue. I think it gives us an opporunity to respond, to write a > letter to them, giving us a large audience for radical/anarchist/militant > ideas if they acutally publish the response. Check out the commentary below > and possibly consider writing a response to them. > Cheers, > Rob Augman
www.contextflexed.com/storyara.html
Youch
by Dana
Thursday, Oct. 13, 2005 at 1:16 AM
Someone has a burr under their butt over ARA, don't they? You'd think they were the second coming of Stalin or something to warrant a truly excellent rant like that. I hope no one ever tries to organize against discrimination in my town!
;-)
Hilarious
by mike
Thursday, Oct. 13, 2005 at 3:10 AM
Well, it looks like cleveland imc will have to deal with idiot skinheads for a minute until the Toledo protest is over.
You know, just when you really need a laugh, here come the nazis. This post is hysterical. My favorite part is the Dead Kennedy's reference! Priceless! ARA is nothing but Jello Biafra followers...I'm gonna use that one....
The funniest part is that they're stupid enough to think we're pro-Israel. I guess they've never visited IMC before (including our own Cleveland feature about ethnic cleansing in Palestine). Of course, they would have to actually read an article, and we all know how much nazis like reading (assuming there's a literate nazi somewhere).
Wait, I changed my mind. My favorite part is when a goddam nazi skinhead condemns activists for being violent. That's pure gold. Because, you know, nobody's as peaceful as.....A NAZI. Aren't they the standard for pacifism? Gandhi and the nazis, right?
Alright, last one. On their website, all they do is trash anarchists, and then on the bottom refer to themselves as libertarian socialists ("anarchism" is the vernacular for libertarian socialism).
Once again, this is entirely cut-and-paste (nazis are too stupid to think for themselves, you see). It also has zero references or citations (nazis don't read very much, or care for concepts like....i dunno....fact).
Don't be angry at the nazis. Believe me, there aren't that many of them, and they have clear social and psychological dysfunctions. Think about how shitty your life has to be when you're so blindly ignorant and hateful. Sometimes, when someone's life lacks meaning, they need to fill the void with something. These nazis took the cowardly way out, and turned to division and hate. It was probably something like this:
"Yeah, I'm ignorant, I don't have many friends, I never seem to fit in, I don't really succeed at anything, and no one respects me....but hey, at least I'm white! I'll use that!"
Don't get me wrong. When these morons go marching through communites, harrassing innocent people and families, I'll be the first one hoping they get what they deserve.
Idiots
by mking
Monday, Oct. 17, 2005 at 12:08 PM
mking_usa@yahoo.com
Dawn, you are an idiot. Your great great grandfather probably owned slaves and if you had it your way you would probably own a few too. Amazing people like you are still around today.
Part two of the idiot of the year award goes to anyone who took part in the riots over the weekend in Toledo. Congrats to you. You actually made Dawn and her merry group of Nazis look like the peaceful protestors. I didn't see any skin heads starting fires and robbing liquor stores did you? This was a perfect occasion to let these Nazis make idiots of themselves much like the KKK did in Cleveland back in the late 90's but instead you actually managed to take the heat and attention off the Nazis and those of you (if any who visit this indymedia) who took part in the riots looked like the close minded violent idiots.
Better luck next time.
M
Are You Serious?
by mike
Monday, Oct. 17, 2005 at 2:04 PM
Mking -
First of all, "Dawn" is not really a "Dawn". It is one of the many fake names being used by the neo-nazis currently bombarding this website. Don't feel like you should take them seriously or respond to their hate. Yes, they do wish slavery still existed. That's a given. They're nazis!
Secondly, are you really surprised the protest resulted in violence? If 15 people escorted by cops marched through Little Italy chanting "Italians are inferior and should die", there would be a riot. Same thing for any particular neighborhood. This is particularly true in a poor black neighborhood. Most black people live in poverty because of racism (past and present), and so it's not surprising they respond to white supremacists by saying, "Fuck this. White people get all the privileges, and now they're marching through our neighborhood to tell us how inferior we are?" It makes it much easier for black people to see ALL white people as racist, and thus, "Fuck them. I'm stealing their shit". This is exactly why the Nazis, or any hate group that advocates racial superiority, should not be permitted to protest (or at least not with police protection). It is all too easy to respond to hate with hate, especially when the people are already poverty stricken.
Finally, as far as "no skinheads were being violent", are you serious? Mking, they're NAZIS. They advocate slavery, murder, genocide and facism. They don't have to break a window to be the most violent people there. If they had enough people, they would have started killing every minority they saw. The shit coming our of their mouths and what they represent is FAR more violent than anything rioters did.
Let me put this in words you might understand: If Osama Bin Laden held an "I hate Americans" rally in New York City, and New Yorkers broke out into riots, would you describe the New Yorkers as "violent" and Bin Laden as "peaceful"? Of course not! Why not? Because rioters were responding to the uber-violence of Bin Laden, just as the Toledo residents were responding to the uber-violence of Nazis.
The fact that your comment focuses more on criticizing the response to Nazis instead of criticizing the Nazi march itself definitely makes me reevaluate my opinion of you (and not for the better). I guess I expected too much from you. The whole point of the Nazi march was to prove how "violent" black people are, and you're feeding into their bullshit hook, line and sinker. Maybe you'd like to start attending their meetings?
Mike
by mking
Monday, Oct. 17, 2005 at 7:00 PM
mking_usa@yahoo.com
At no point did I defend the Nazis. I do not support them or their beliefs and after all this time I am shocked you would even put me anywhere near that catagory, Mike.
Second, the riot starting because of the actions of the "peaceful" protestors feeds the fire these idiots are trying to burn. They received 100 times the coverage they would have received because of the actions of a few idiots. And I am sorry but the argument of "what did you expect?" because of the neighborhood they walked through is B.S. The Klan staged a rally in Cleveland in the late 90's. Many African American groups as well as local activists showed up to PEACEFULLY protest and guess what happened...NOTHING. Ten people in sheets looked like idiots standing on court house steps and after a short time when they realized they weren't going to start a riot or get a huge rise out of the crowd they packed up and left.
In 1993 the same thing took place in Painesville (Lake County, OH). Nazis and Klansmen staged a rally in the town square. Painesville has a large African American and Hispanic popultion that lives near the center of town. Anti-hate groups rallied at the Lake Erie College campus and we marched to the square to protest. We protested for about an hour with large groups of local Hispanic and African American citizens. Once again, no riots, few if any arrests, and when these idiots realized they weren't going to get a rise out of anyone THEY LEFT. In Toledo the so called peaceful protestors failed the people they were supposedly defending.
PS Bad example bringing up Little Italy. As I recall during an anti-war march a few years back the local community was not happy all of you showed up in their community. During the march a local who was fed up took matters into his own hands, clocked one of you, and screamed for you to leave. The people at the time who were involved in the march and visited this site cried for weeks about the incident. So now 2 1/2 years later was the Little Italy citizen justified in his violence because he didn't want you in his neighborhood and didn't agree with your anti-war message? I think not!
M
ratboy
by user
Monday, Oct. 17, 2005 at 10:36 PM
Nobody cares what the commies over at sodomy & @nal have to say.
nazis?what nazis? Fuck the police!
by @-commie
Tuesday, Oct. 18, 2005 at 9:32 AM
Nobody cares about the nazis. So what if they got some extra coverage because of that, its not going to result in anything and they know it. And if it does we will just have to keep fighting them with militant action, just like we did in Toledo. We will allways outnumber them.
The riot was not about them. They left after 5 minutes or so. This was about something else. It was about and against the state and class society. Something that that community feel the sting of everyday and something that is a much bigger problem than some obscure nazigroup wanting to have a meaningless demo.
That day that community came together as a real community. That day they united and directed their violence towards their true enemies - the police, the state and class society. This can have a very positive effect on that community, and i for one applaud it.
Anything But An Ad Hom?
by mike
Tuesday, Oct. 18, 2005 at 12:53 PM
Jesus, can you Nazis say ANYTHING that's not an ad hom? Do you even have the capability for rational thought? Just so you know, an ad hom is not an argument, it's what people without thought or arguments say instead. It means you don't have anything intelligent or valuable to say.
Again, I'm sorry you were picked on in high school, your father is a racist drunk, your mom molested you, or whatever reason you resort to such pathetic politics. I'm sorry you feel so shitty about yourself that you have to create delusions and lies about people based on their race, religion or ethnicity. You do not belong in this century or millenium.
Go back and talk with the other single men in your club (I know your single since no one in their right mind would love any of you) and make yourselves feel better by stepping on everyone else. YOU are what is wrong with the world today.
Mike?
by White Guy
Thursday, Oct. 20, 2005 at 9:24 PM
Did you get your high IQ from yoru mother or from the horse that fucked her before you were born?
Mike?
by White Guy
Thursday, Oct. 20, 2005 at 9:24 PM
Did you get your high IQ from yoru mother or from the horse that fucked her before you were born?
Once Would Have Been Sufficient...
by White Goy
Friday, Oct. 21, 2005 at 12:20 AM
Well, at least you admit that he's smarter than you'll ever be, you dumb fuck.
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