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Thursday, Mar. 27, 2008 at 4:37 PM
This poll, done by the foremost Palestinian polling agency, demonstrates the misguided nature of the Bush/Rice mid-East policy.
When a significant plurality of Palestinians voted Hamas in to power, and then supported Hamas after the Hamas take-over in Gaza, and now supports Hamas broadly in the West Bank (some commentators contend that Abbas would not last a minute in Ramallah without the support of the IDF - and his replacement would be Hamas)....I suggest that our State Department and foreign policy advisors should present to our president the obvious and ineluctable conclusion that there can be no negotiated peace with the Palestinians.
This poll tells us that it is NOT merely a group of psychotic leaders and some tiny minority of hate-filled followers who seek the destruction of Israel and the genocide of its Jews. Significant pluralities, majorities, and in some cases significant majorities of Palestinians enthusiastically support the long term goal and vision of Hamas (and Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad, and PFLP and DFLP and PFLP-GC and Tanzim and force 17 and Fatah and el-Aqsa Martrys' Brigade and resistance committees and ansar al-Islam and Jayyish Allah and Sayyif el-Jihad and Hizb-ut-tahrir, inter alia) -- the destruction of Israel, the genocide of its Jews, and the ultimate genocide of all Jews world-wide.
It is therefore irrational to assert that Israel should be pressured to make concessions (any concessions, territorial, economic, humanitarian, etc.) to mollify Hamas or redress some wrongs (real or imagined) against the Palestinians. When you are dealing with an enemy who tells you quite unequivocally: "we are not fighting you because we want something from you. We are fighting you because we want to destroy you" (Abbas Massawi, former leader of Hezbollah), where do you think you can begin negotiations? -- "destroy half of us"?
How's that for an opener to negotiations?
The only way to achieve a temporary solution to the Israel-Arab conflict now is to support Israel in its natural and moral and legal right of self-defense; so that Israel can launch a major offensive against Hamas (and perhaps Hezbollah) and destroy these terrorist armies' abilities to destroy Israel.
HOWEVER, that will be only a temporary victory. Because Iran and Arabia will re-constitute Hamas within a few months or years, and will be able to re-deploy these terror armies in order to continue the endless war which they have been supporting since before the State of Israel was created.
But, at least with a temporary victory, Israel and the USA and the UK can have time to pursue political programs with Iran and Arabia; programs which may be able to defuse and redirect the Iranian quest for WMDs, and shunt Saudi support for world-wide jihad and anti-Israel terrorism into some internal reformation.
The only hope we have for a permanent victory for Israel, and for western civilization, in our war against the Jihadist Imperialist supremacist totalitarian triumphalist tyrannical theocratic terrorist Islamic (JISTTTTI) fascist regimes that are arraigned against us, is the invention or discovery of a low-cost renewable clean substitute for petroleum. Such a substitute, once in wide-spread use as an energy source that obviates our need for arab oil, will bankrupt the Saudis and Iranians....and without the billions of dollars that these Islamo-fascist jihadist countries sink in to international terrorism and anti-Israel terrorism each year, the JISTTTTI terror war against Western civilization would grind to a halt....like a car running out of gas.
David ML
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ps. note my comments, IN CAPS, beneath some of the poll questions, and note especially questions #s: 35-37.
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PSR Poll No. 27 13-15 March 2008
http://www.pcpsr.org/ survey/polls/ 2008/p27e1. html
PSR - Survey Research Unit: Public Opinion Poll # 27
24 March 2008
Palestinian Public Opinion Poll No (27)
These are the results of the latest poll conducted by the Palestinian
Center for Policy and Survey Research (PSR) in the West Bank and the Gaza
Strip between 13 and 15 March 2008. Total size of the sample is 1270 adults ,
830 in the West Bank and 440 in the Gaza Strip, interviewed face to face in
127 randomly selected locations. Margin of error is 3%. For further
details, contact PSR director, Dr. Khalil Shikaki, or Walid Ladadweh at tel
02-296 4933 or email pcpsr@pcpsr. org.
00 )From among the following satellite news stations, which one you
watched most during the last two months?
1) Al Arabia6.1%
2) Al Jazeera54.2%
3) Al Hurra0.3%
4) Al Manar3.6%
5) Palestine TV11.2%
6) Al-Aqsa TV18.3%
7) Do not watch TV3.0%
8) Others1.1%
9) Do not have a dish2.2%
10) No Opinion/Don' t know0.1%
EL JAZEERA, BY A WIDE MARGIN - THE CHANNEL WHICH BROADCASTS AND RE-BROADCASTS OSAMA'S JEREMIADS AGAINST "GLOBAL NON-BELIEF", AND WHICH RUNS AN ENDLESS SERIES OF SCENES OF "ISRAELI CARNAGE" AGAINST PALESTINIANS.
01)Are you satisfied or not satisfied with the performance of Mahmud
Abbas since his election as president of the PA?
1) Very satisfied5.5%
2) Satisfied 35.0%
3) Not satisfied 36.3%
4) not satisfied at all 19.6%
5) DK/NA3.6%
02)If new presidential elections are to take place today, and Mahmud
Abbas was nominated by Fateh and Ismail Haniyeh was nominated by Hamas, whom
would you vote for?
1) Mahmoud Abbas46.4%
2) Ismael Haneyyeh47.0%
3 DK/NA6.6%
HALF OF THE PALESTINIANS WANT HAMAS. THEY KNOW HAMAS' AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDES THE GENOCIDE OF WORLD JEWRY, AND THEY APPROVE.
03)And if the competition was between Marwan Barghouti representing
Fateh and Ismael Haneyyeh representing Hams, whom would you vote for?
1) Marwan Barghouti56. 7%
2) Ismael Haneyyeh38.2%
3) No Opinion/ Don't know 5.1%
AH. IF ONLY ISRAEL WERE TO LET BARGHOUTI OUT OF JAIL, HE COULD COMPETE WITH HAMAS.
(I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO QUESTION #4)
05)If new elections agreed to by all factions are held today and the same
lists that took part in the last PLC elections were nominated, for whom would
you vote?
1) alternative1. 5%
2) independent Palestine3.5%
3) Abu Ali Mustafa4.0%
4) Abu al Abbas
5) freedom and social justice0.6%
6) change and reform34.8%
7) national coalition for justice and democracy 0.4%
8) third way1.5%
9) freedom and independence0. 4%
10) Palestinian justice0.2%
11) Fateh41.6%
12) none of the above/ DK/NA11.4%
NOTICE THAT THE ANSWERS TO THIS QUESTION CONTRADICT THE ANSWERS TO QUESTION #2
06)Hamas carried out a military step in mid June against security
headquarters belonging to the PA in the Gaza Strip and succeeded after
that in controlling the Strip. Do you approve or disapprove of what Hamas
did?
1) Strongly approve7.6%
2) Approve18.8%
3) Disapprove45. 3%
4) Strongly disapprove22. 2%
5) DK/NA6.1%
THIS ANSWER TOO CONTRADICTS #2
07)President Mahmud Abbas dismissed the government of Ismail Haniyeh
after the Gaza events about Nine months ago. But the prime minister of the
dismissed government remained in his position in the Gaza Strip. Do you
approve or disapprove of his decision to stay in his position?
1) Strongly approve12.1%
2) Approve36.8%
3) Disapprove34. 7%
4) Strongly disapprove10. 2%
5) DK/NA6.3%
SUPPORT FOR HAMAS' COUP IS GREATER THAN OPPOSITION, BUT ONLY SLIGHTLY.
08)Moreover, President Abbas appointed an emergency government headed
by Salam Fayyad. After the ending of the emergency period and due to the
inability of the PLC to convene, the government of Fayyad became a care
taker one. Do you approve or disapprove of the continued functioning of
this government?
1) Strongly approve4.7%
2) Approve32.9%
3) Disapprove42. 2%
4) Strongly disapprove13. 1%
5) DK/NA7.0%
THIS DISAPPROVAL OF THE PA GOV'T LED BY FAYYAD AND ABBAS IS CONSISTENT WITH #1 & #2.
09)After the separation between Gaza and the West Bank, Hamas and the
government of Ismail Haniyeh remained in power in Gaza and considered
itself the legitimate government while president Abu Mazin formed a new
government headed by Salam Fayyad and it too considered itself legitimate. What
about you, which of the two government you consider legitimate, the
government of Haniyeh or the government of Abu Mazin and Fayyad?
1) Haniyehs' government is the legitimate one34.0%
2) Abu Mazin's and Fayyad government is the legitimate one28.8%
3) Both governments are legitimate9. 3%
4) Both governments are not legitimate24. 4%
5) DK/NA3.4%
SUPPORT FOR HAMAS IS GREATER THAN SUPPORT FOR ABBAS.
10)As an exit strategy for the current crisis between Fateh and Hamas
and the split of authority, Hamas's position is to call for an
unconditional dialogue with Abu Mazin based on the current status quo. Abu Mazin's
and Fateh's position is that he would agree to such a dialogue but under
one condition; Hamas must first transfer control of the PA Gaza headquarters to him and return to the status quo ante. Which of the two positions is closer to your view?
1) Hamas's position36.8%
2) Abu Mazin's and Fateh's position 38.7%
3) I disagree with both positions21. 9%
4) DK/NA2.7%
THIS ANSWER, WHICH SHOWS MORE SUPPORT FOR ABBAS, CONTRADICTS #s 1 & 2.
11)Tell us how do you evaluate the performance of the dismissed
government of Ismail Haniyeh in the Gaza Strip? Is it good or bad?
1) Very Good 14.7%
2) Good 24.7%
3) Neither good nor bad 20.4%
4) Bad19.7%
5) Very Bad14.0%
6) No Opinion/Don' t know6.6%
ALMOST 60% APPROVE OR AT LEAST DO NOT DISAPPROVE OF HAMAS.
12)Tell us how do you evaluate the performance of the government headed
by Salam Fayyad? Is it good or bad?
1) Very Good 4.3%
2) Good 25.7%
3) Neither good nor bad22.0%
4) Bad24.9%
5) Very Bad 16.8%
6) No Opinion/Don' t know6.3%
MORE THAN 60% CONDEMN THE ABBAS/FAYYAM GOVERNMENT.
13)In general, how would you describe conditions of the Palestinians in
the Palestinian areas in Gaza Strip these days?
1) Very good0.9%
2) Good4.4%
3) So so 6.8%
4) Bad30.1%
5) Very bad 56.8%
6) DK/NA1.0%
14)In general, how would you describe conditions of the Palestinians in
the Palestinian areas in the West Bank these days?
1) Very good2.2%
2) Good18.9%
3) So so 24.9%
4) Bad33.3%
5) Very bad 18.3%
6) DK/NA2.4%
15)Generally, do you see yourself as:
1) Religious 48.4%
2) Somewhat religious47. 9%
3) Not religious3.4%
4) DK/NA0.3%
THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY SEE THEMSELVES AS RELIGIOUS. THIS MAY EXPLAIN THE SUPPORT FOR HAMAS EVEN THOUGH HAMAS HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT IT IS OPPRESSIVE AND REPRESSIVE AND TOTALITARIAN....ITS CORE VALUES AND CORNERSTONE TENETS ARE COMPLETELY CONSISTENT WITH TRADITIONAL ISLAMIC PRIORITIES.
16)Generally, do you see yourself as:
1) Supportive of the peace process66.5%
2) Opposed to the peace process17.6%
3) Between support and opposition 15.0%
4) DK/NA0.9%
THIS ANSWER WOULD GIVE ONE HOPE, WERE IT NOT FOR THE CONTRADICTORY ANSWERS BELOW.
17)Would you say that these days your security and safety, and that of
your family, is assured or not assured?
1) Completely assured 6.8%
2) Assured 30.2%
3) Not assured 48.0%
4) Not assured at all 15.0%
23)With regard to meetings between Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert
and PA President Mahmud Abbas, do you see them beneficial and should be
continued or do you see them unbeneficial and should be stopped?
1) Beneficial, and should continue 21.4%
2) Unbeneficial and should stop 74.9%
3) NO/DK3.7%
THIS CONTRADICTS #16.
24)Do you support or oppose the launching of rockets from the Gaza
Strip against towns and cities inside Israel, such as Sderot and Ashkelon?
1) Certainly support24.3%
2) Support 39.3%
3) Oppose 26.2%
4) Certainly oppose 6.4%
5) NA/DK 3.9%
ALMOST 65% WANT ROCKETS TO CONTINUE. THIS CONTRADICTS #16.
25) Who, in your views, is responsible for the continued split in the
PA between Gaza and the West Bank? Fateh or Hamas?
1) Hamas 17.0%
2) Fateh 20.8%
3) Both of them 53.8%
4) No one 4.1%
5) Other 2.5%
6) No Opinion/ Don't know1.9%
26)What do you expect to happen now between Palestinians and Israelis,
after increase in the level of violence and number of Palestinian and Israeli
causalities and at the time the two sides started final status negotiations
launched by the Annapolis Conference?
1) Negotiations will resume soon enough and armed confrontations will
stop12.9%
2) Negotiations will resume but some armed attacks will continue47.8%
3) Armed confrontations will not stop and the two sides will not
return to negotiations34. 5%
4) DK/NA4.9%
82% EXPECT ARMED CONFRONTATIONS TO CONTINUE. THIS CONTRADICTS #16.
27)According to the Saudi plan, Israel will retreat from all territories
occupied in 1967 including Gaza the West Bank, Jerusalem and the Golan
Heights, and a Palestinian state will be established. The refugees problem
will be resolved through negotiation in a just and agreed upon manner
and in accordance with UN resolution 194 which allows return of refugees to
Israel and compensation. In return, all Arab states will recognize Israel and
its right to secure borders, will sign peace treaties with her and establish
normal diplomatic relations. Do you agree or disagree to this plan?
1) Certainly agree8.2%
2) agree57.5%
3) disagree24.8%
4) Certainly disagree6.8%
5) DK/NA2.7%
MORE THAN 65% AGREE WITH SAUDI PLAN. BUT ALMOST 32% DISAGREE. IT IS HARD TO MAKE PEACE WITH 2/3 OF THE PEOPLE WHEN THE OTHER 1/3 IS OPPOSED TO PEACE.
28A)There is a proposal that after the establishment of an independent
Palestinian state and the settlement of all issues in dispute,
including the refugees and Jerusalem issues, there will be a mutual recognition of
Israel as the state of the Jewish people and Palestine as the state of the
Palestinians people. Do you agree or disagree to this proposal?
1) Definitely agree5.3%
2) agree51.8%
3) disagree29.8%
4) definitely disagree11.8%
5) DK/NA1.3%
57% AGREE IS GOOD. BUT 41% DISAGREE. SAME QUESTION AS IN #27.
28B)There is a proposal that as part of an Israeli Palestinian final
status agreement there will be a mutual recognition of Israel as the state of
the Jewish people and Palestine as the state of the Palestinian people. Do
you agree or disagree to this proposal?
1) Certainly agree5.5%
2) Agree47.9%
3) Disagree33.3%
4) Certainly disagree12.3%
5) DK/NA0.9%
53% AGREE = GOOD SIGN. BUT ALMOST 46% DISAGREE...BAD SIGN.
29)And what is the Palestinian majority opinion on this issue? Do most
Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza support or oppose the
recognition of Israel as the state of the Jewish people and Palestine as the state of
the Palestinian people at the end of the peace process?
1) Majority supports46.7%
2) Majority opposes41.3%
3) DK/NA12.0%
30)And what is the Israeli majority opinion on this issue? Do most
Israelis support or oppose the recognition of Israel as the state of the Jewish
people and Palestine as the state of the Palestinian people at the end of
the peace process?
1) Majority supports40.1%
2) Majority opposes47.8%
5) DK/NA12.2%
33)Now 40 years after the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the
Gaza Strip, what in your view are the chances for the establishment of an
independent Palestinian state next to the state of Israel in the next
five years? Are they high, medium, low, or none existent?
1) None existent31.1%
2) Low 37.2%
3) Medium24.2%
4) High5.3%
5) DK/NA2.2%
34) And what are your expectations regarding the chances for the
success or failure of the negotiations launched by Annapolis conference? Will it
succeed or fail in ending Israeli occupation?
1) Certainly will succeed0.4%
2) Will succeed13.3%
3) Will fail49.1%
4) Certainly will fail30.8%
5) DK/NA6.4%
35)Concerning armed attacks against Israeli civilians inside Israel, I..
1) Strongly support 27.9%
2) Support 38.6%
3) Oppose 28.2%
4) Strongly oppose 2.7%
5) DK/NA2.7%
66% FAVOR MORE TERRORISM. THAT PRETTY MUCH ENDS ANY CREDIBILITY TO #16.
36)And what about the bombing attack in the religious school in
Jerusalem inside Israel in the first week of the current month of March in which
eight Israeli students were killed in addition to the Palestinian attacker,
do you support or oppose this attack?
1) Certainly support 41.9%
2) Support 41.6%
3) Oppose 12.0%
4) Certainly oppose 1.4%
5) DK/NA3.2%
ALMOST 84% SUPPORT THE MURDER OF TEEN-AGED JEWISH KIDS. THERE MUST BE SOME SORT OF MIS-UNDERSTANDING AMONG THE POLLED PALESTINIANS AS TO WHAT "SUPPORTIVE OF THE PEACE PROCESS" (#16) MEANS.
ON THE OTHER HAND, LET'S RECALL THAT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS WORLD-WIDE BELIEVE THAT THE MOSSAD DID 9/11; YET OSAMA IS THE MOST REVERED AND ADULATED ARAB LEADER IN THE WORLD BECAUSE HE DID 9/11. SO AT LEAST SOME ARABS CAN ENTERTAIN AS EQUALLY VALID MUTUALLY CONTRADICTORY CONCEPTS.
37)And what about the bombing attack in Dimona in Israel in early
February of this year in which one Israeli woman was killed in addition to the
two bombers, do you support or oppose this attack?
1) Certainly support 34.8%
2) Support 42.6%
3) Oppose 16.9%
4) Certainly oppose 1.6%
5) DK/NA4.1%
ALMOST 78% SUPPORT MURDER OF JEWISH WOMEN - SAME COMMENT AS #36.
38)Which of the following political parties do you support?
1) PPP0.6%
2) PFLP3.3%
3) Fateh30.9%
4) Hamas24.7%
5) DFLP0.3%
6) Islamic Jihad2.5%
7) Fida0.1%
8) National Initiative (Mubadara)1. 8%
9) Independent Islamists4.7%
10) Independent Nationalists4. 5%
11) None of the above26.1%
12) Other, specify0.6%
THE SUPPOSEDLY MODERATE FATAH GETS 31%. BUT IF YOU COMBINE HAMAS WITH THE OTHER TERROR GROUPS THAT SHARE ITS AGENDA AND ARE IN FACT EVEN MORE VIRULENT THAN HAMAS, THE PALESTINIAN POPULAR SUPPORT FOR GENOCIDAL TERROR WAR AGAINST ISRAEL (PFLP, DFLP, ISLAMIC JIHAD, INDEPENDENT ISLAMISTS) IS MORE THAN 36%.
AND WHEN YOU RECALL THAT FATAH TOO IS TERRORIST AND HAS AS ONE OF ITS CORNERSTONE PLANKS IN ITS POLITICAL PLATFORM THE UTTER DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL....THEN SUPPORT FOR TERROR PARTIES JUMPS TO 67%.
ONLY A BIT MORE THAN 10% SUPPORT NON-TERRORIST/NON-GENOCIDAL PALESTINIAN PARTIES.
MORE THAN 2/3 OF THE POLLED PALESTINIANS WANT ISRAEL DESTROYED.
URGING ISRAEL TO MAKE MORE CONCESSIONS, CEDE MORE TERRITORY, ASSIST IN ARMING AND TRAINING THE PA POLICE (MANY OF WHOM MOONLIGHT FOR HAMAS) ETC...MERELY HELPS THE GENOCIDAL TERRORISTS ACCOMPLISH THEIR GOALS MORE EFFECTIVELY.
and THEM???
by PrionPartyy
Thursday, Mar. 27, 2008 at 11:44 PM
And pretty much the whole world is cool with the idea of jews of the warsaw ghetto tossing molotov cocktails at the Nazi occupiers of poland. That is because the Nazis were, like Zionists are, murderous thieves occupying another people's homeland.
DUH!
by PrionPartyy
Thursday, Mar. 27, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Since what you call "Israel" is ZIonist occupied Palestine, why is it so suprizing to you that Palestinians whould want "Israel" destroyed? The locals wanted the allegedly Christian crusaders "states" destroyed TOO. Was it because they were anti-Christian. Or was it the obvious reason that the allegedly Christian crusaders were, as ZIonists ARE, murderous thieves of the land.
It isn't like the hebrew's murderous theft of the land 3000 years ago really gives ZIonists a birthright of murderous theft of the land in the present.
DUH!
by PrionPartyy
Thursday, Mar. 27, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Since what you call "Israel" is ZIonist occupied Palestine, why is it so suprizing to you that Palestinians whould want "Israel" destroyed?
The locals wanted the allegedly Christian crusaders "states" destroyed TOO. Was it because they were anti-Christian. Or was it the obvious reason that the allegedly Christian crusaders were, as ZIonists ARE, murderous thieves of the land. Who WOULDN'T want their homelands liberated from MURDEROUS THIEVES???
It isn't like the hebrew's murderous theft of the land 3000 years ago really gives Zionists a birthright of murderous theft of the land in the present.
It is hard to believe that Zionists still have an ever shriking audience for their BS scapegoating crap.
what it is. pathetic and pathological
by PPyy
Thursday, Mar. 27, 2008 at 11:58 PM
I mean, it is just so fukin amazing that Zionists still have the nerve to suggest that because palestinians would want their homeland liberated, that ZIonists have a right to steal Palestinian lands and MURDER (under the laws YOU demand for your own protection) the Palestinians who dare to rest the ZIonist's theft of palestinian lands, AS WELL AS the Palestinians the ZIonist invadors say are in the wrong place.
Ohhh, that little Palestinian kid got TOO close to some fence the Zionist said was of limits.
majority of plaestinians support terror
by majority of plaestinians support terror
Friday, Mar. 28, 2008 at 9:51 AM
This poll, done by the foremost Palestinian polling agency, demonstrates the misguided nature of the Bush/Rice mid-East policy.
When a significant plurality of Palestinians voted Hamas in to power, and then supported Hamas after the Hamas take-over in Gaza, and now supports Hamas broadly in the West Bank (some commentators contend that Abbas would not last a minute in Ramallah without the support of the IDF - and his replacement would be Hamas)....I suggest that our State Department and foreign policy advisors should present to our president the obvious and ineluctable conclusion that there can be no negotiated peace with the Palestinians.
This poll tells us that it is NOT merely a group of psychotic leaders and some tiny minority of hate-filled followers who seek the destruction of Israel and the genocide of its Jews. Significant pluralities, majorities, and in some cases significant majorities of Palestinians enthusiastically support the long term goal and vision of Hamas (and Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad, and PFLP and DFLP and PFLP-GC and Tanzim and force 17 and Fatah and el-Aqsa Martrys' Brigade and resistance committees and ansar al-Islam and Jayyish Allah and Sayyif el-Jihad and Hizb-ut-tahrir, inter alia) -- the destruction of Israel, the genocide of its Jews, and the ultimate genocide of all Jews world-wide.
It is therefore irrational to assert that Israel should be pressured to make concessions (any concessions, territorial, economic, humanitarian, etc.) to mollify Hamas or redress some wrongs (real or imagined) against the Palestinians. When you are dealing with an enemy who tells you quite unequivocally: "we are not fighting you because we want something from you. We are fighting you because we want to destroy you" (Abbas Massawi, former leader of Hezbollah), where do you think you can begin negotiations? -- "destroy half of us"?
How's that for an opener to negotiations?
The only way to achieve a temporary solution to the Israel-Arab conflict now is to support Israel in its natural and moral and legal right of self-defense; so that Israel can launch a major offensive against Hamas (and perhaps Hezbollah) and destroy these terrorist armies' abilities to destroy Israel.
HOWEVER, that will be only a temporary victory. Because Iran and Arabia will re-constitute Hamas within a few months or years, and will be able to re-deploy these terror armies in order to continue the endless war which they have been supporting since before the State of Israel was created.
But, at least with a temporary victory, Israel and the USA and the UK can have time to pursue political programs with Iran and Arabia; programs which may be able to defuse and redirect the Iranian quest for WMDs, and shunt Saudi support for world-wide jihad and anti-Israel terrorism into some internal reformation.
The only hope we have for a permanent victory for Israel, and for western civilization, in our war against the Jihadist Imperialist supremacist totalitarian triumphalist tyrannical theocratic terrorist Islamic (JISTTTTI) fascist regimes that are arraigned against us, is the invention or discovery of a low-cost renewable clean substitute for petroleum. Such a substitute, once in wide-spread use as an energy source that obviates our need for arab oil, will bankrupt the Saudis and Iranians....and without the billions of dollars that these Islamo-fascist jihadist countries sink in to international terrorism and anti-Israel terrorism each year, the JISTTTTI terror war against Western civilization would grind to a halt....like a car running out of gas.
David ML
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ps. note my comments, IN CAPS, beneath some of the poll questions, and note especially questions #s: 35-37.
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PSR Poll No. 27 13-15 March 2008
http://www.pcpsr.org/ survey/polls/ 2008/p27e1. html
PSR - Survey Research Unit: Public Opinion Poll # 27
24 March 2008
Palestinian Public Opinion Poll No (27)
These are the results of the latest poll conducted by the Palestinian
Center for Policy and Survey Research (PSR) in the West Bank and the Gaza
Strip between 13 and 15 March 2008. Total size of the sample is 1270 adults ,
830 in the West Bank and 440 in the Gaza Strip, interviewed face to face in
127 randomly selected locations. Margin of error is 3%. For further
details, contact PSR director, Dr. Khalil Shikaki, or Walid Ladadweh at tel
02-296 4933 or email pcpsr@pcpsr. org.
00 )From among the following satellite news stations, which one you
watched most during the last two months?
1) Al Arabia6.1%
2) Al Jazeera54.2%
3) Al Hurra0.3%
4) Al Manar3.6%
5) Palestine TV11.2%
6) Al-Aqsa TV18.3%
7) Do not watch TV3.0%
8) Others1.1%
9) Do not have a dish2.2%
10) No Opinion/Don' t know0.1%
EL JAZEERA, BY A WIDE MARGIN - THE CHANNEL WHICH BROADCASTS AND RE-BROADCASTS OSAMA'S JEREMIADS AGAINST "GLOBAL NON-BELIEF", AND WHICH RUNS AN ENDLESS SERIES OF SCENES OF "ISRAELI CARNAGE" AGAINST PALESTINIANS.
01)Are you satisfied or not satisfied with the performance of Mahmud
Abbas since his election as president of the PA?
1) Very satisfied5.5%
2) Satisfied 35.0%
3) Not satisfied 36.3%
4) not satisfied at all 19.6%
5) DK/NA3.6%
02)If new presidential elections are to take place today, and Mahmud
Abbas was nominated by Fateh and Ismail Haniyeh was nominated by Hamas, whom
would you vote for?
1) Mahmoud Abbas46.4%
2) Ismael Haneyyeh47.0%
3 DK/NA6.6%
HALF OF THE PALESTINIANS WANT HAMAS. THEY KNOW HAMAS' AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDES THE GENOCIDE OF WORLD JEWRY, AND THEY APPROVE.
03)And if the competition was between Marwan Barghouti representing
Fateh and Ismael Haneyyeh representing Hams, whom would you vote for?
1) Marwan Barghouti56. 7%
2) Ismael Haneyyeh38.2%
3) No Opinion/ Don't know 5.1%
AH. IF ONLY ISRAEL WERE TO LET BARGHOUTI OUT OF JAIL, HE COULD COMPETE WITH HAMAS.
(I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO QUESTION #4)
05)If new elections agreed to by all factions are held today and the same
lists that took part in the last PLC elections were nominated, for whom would
you vote?
1) alternative1. 5%
2) independent Palestine3.5%
3) Abu Ali Mustafa4.0%
4) Abu al Abbas
5) freedom and social justice0.6%
6) change and reform34.8%
7) national coalition for justice and democracy 0.4%
8) third way1.5%
9) freedom and independence0. 4%
10) Palestinian justice0.2%
11) Fateh41.6%
12) none of the above/ DK/NA11.4%
NOTICE THAT THE ANSWERS TO THIS QUESTION CONTRADICT THE ANSWERS TO QUESTION #2
06)Hamas carried out a military step in mid June against security
headquarters belonging to the PA in the Gaza Strip and succeeded after
that in controlling the Strip. Do you approve or disapprove of what Hamas
did?
1) Strongly approve7.6%
2) Approve18.8%
3) Disapprove45. 3%
4) Strongly disapprove22. 2%
5) DK/NA6.1%
THIS ANSWER TOO CONTRADICTS #2
07)President Mahmud Abbas dismissed the government of Ismail Haniyeh
after the Gaza events about Nine months ago. But the prime minister of the
dismissed government remained in his position in the Gaza Strip. Do you
approve or disapprove of his decision to stay in his position?
1) Strongly approve12.1%
2) Approve36.8%
3) Disapprove34. 7%
4) Strongly disapprove10. 2%
5) DK/NA6.3%
SUPPORT FOR HAMAS' COUP IS GREATER THAN OPPOSITION, BUT ONLY SLIGHTLY.
08)Moreover, President Abbas appointed an emergency government headed
by Salam Fayyad. After the ending of the emergency period and due to the
inability of the PLC to convene, the government of Fayyad became a care
taker one. Do you approve or disapprove of the continued functioning of
this government?
1) Strongly approve4.7%
2) Approve32.9%
3) Disapprove42. 2%
4) Strongly disapprove13. 1%
5) DK/NA7.0%
THIS DISAPPROVAL OF THE PA GOV'T LED BY FAYYAD AND ABBAS IS CONSISTENT WITH #1 & #2.
09)After the separation between Gaza and the West Bank, Hamas and the
government of Ismail Haniyeh remained in power in Gaza and considered
itself the legitimate government while president Abu Mazin formed a new
government headed by Salam Fayyad and it too considered itself legitimate. What
about you, which of the two government you consider legitimate, the
government of Haniyeh or the government of Abu Mazin and Fayyad?
1) Haniyehs' government is the legitimate one34.0%
2) Abu Mazin's and Fayyad government is the legitimate one28.8%
3) Both governments are legitimate9. 3%
4) Both governments are not legitimate24. 4%
5) DK/NA3.4%
SUPPORT FOR HAMAS IS GREATER THAN SUPPORT FOR ABBAS.
10)As an exit strategy for the current crisis between Fateh and Hamas
and the split of authority, Hamas's position is to call for an
unconditional dialogue with Abu Mazin based on the current status quo. Abu Mazin's
and Fateh's position is that he would agree to such a dialogue but under
one condition; Hamas must first transfer control of the PA Gaza headquarters to him and return to the status quo ante. Which of the two positions is closer to your view?
1) Hamas's position36.8%
2) Abu Mazin's and Fateh's position 38.7%
3) I disagree with both positions21. 9%
4) DK/NA2.7%
THIS ANSWER, WHICH SHOWS MORE SUPPORT FOR ABBAS, CONTRADICTS #s 1 & 2.
11)Tell us how do you evaluate the performance of the dismissed
government of Ismail Haniyeh in the Gaza Strip? Is it good or bad?
1) Very Good 14.7%
2) Good 24.7%
3) Neither good nor bad 20.4%
4) Bad19.7%
5) Very Bad14.0%
6) No Opinion/Don' t know6.6%
ALMOST 60% APPROVE OR AT LEAST DO NOT DISAPPROVE OF HAMAS.
12)Tell us how do you evaluate the performance of the government headed
by Salam Fayyad? Is it good or bad?
1) Very Good 4.3%
2) Good 25.7%
3) Neither good nor bad22.0%
4) Bad24.9%
5) Very Bad 16.8%
6) No Opinion/Don' t know6.3%
MORE THAN 60% CONDEMN THE ABBAS/FAYYAM GOVERNMENT.
13)In general, how would you describe conditions of the Palestinians in
the Palestinian areas in Gaza Strip these days?
1) Very good0.9%
2) Good4.4%
3) So so 6.8%
4) Bad30.1%
5) Very bad 56.8%
6) DK/NA1.0%
14)In general, how would you describe conditions of the Palestinians in
the Palestinian areas in the West Bank these days?
1) Very good2.2%
2) Good18.9%
3) So so 24.9%
4) Bad33.3%
5) Very bad 18.3%
6) DK/NA2.4%
15)Generally, do you see yourself as:
1) Religious 48.4%
2) Somewhat religious47. 9%
3) Not religious3.4%
4) DK/NA0.3%
THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY SEE THEMSELVES AS RELIGIOUS. THIS MAY EXPLAIN THE SUPPORT FOR HAMAS EVEN THOUGH HAMAS HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT IT IS OPPRESSIVE AND REPRESSIVE AND TOTALITARIAN....ITS CORE VALUES AND CORNERSTONE TENETS ARE COMPLETELY CONSISTENT WITH TRADITIONAL ISLAMIC PRIORITIES.
16)Generally, do you see yourself as:
1) Supportive of the peace process66.5%
2) Opposed to the peace process17.6%
3) Between support and opposition 15.0%
4) DK/NA0.9%
THIS ANSWER WOULD GIVE ONE HOPE, WERE IT NOT FOR THE CONTRADICTORY ANSWERS BELOW.
17)Would you say that these days your security and safety, and that of
your family, is assured or not assured?
1) Completely assured 6.8%
2) Assured 30.2%
3) Not assured 48.0%
4) Not assured at all 15.0%
23)With regard to meetings between Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert
and PA President Mahmud Abbas, do you see them beneficial and should be
continued or do you see them unbeneficial and should be stopped?
1) Beneficial, and should continue 21.4%
2) Unbeneficial and should stop 74.9%
3) NO/DK3.7%
THIS CONTRADICTS #16.
24)Do you support or oppose the launching of rockets from the Gaza
Strip against towns and cities inside Israel, such as Sderot and Ashkelon?
1) Certainly support24.3%
2) Support 39.3%
3) Oppose 26.2%
4) Certainly oppose 6.4%
5) NA/DK 3.9%
ALMOST 65% WANT ROCKETS TO CONTINUE. THIS CONTRADICTS #16.
25) Who, in your views, is responsible for the continued split in the
PA between Gaza and the West Bank? Fateh or Hamas?
1) Hamas 17.0%
2) Fateh 20.8%
3) Both of them 53.8%
4) No one 4.1%
5) Other 2.5%
6) No Opinion/ Don't know1.9%
26)What do you expect to happen now between Palestinians and Israelis,
after increase in the level of violence and number of Palestinian and Israeli
causalities and at the time the two sides started final status negotiations
launched by the Annapolis Conference?
1) Negotiations will resume soon enough and armed confrontations will
stop12.9%
2) Negotiations will resume but some armed attacks will continue47.8%
3) Armed confrontations will not stop and the two sides will not
return to negotiations34. 5%
4) DK/NA4.9%
82% EXPECT ARMED CONFRONTATIONS TO CONTINUE. THIS CONTRADICTS #16.
27)According to the Saudi plan, Israel will retreat from all territories
occupied in 1967 including Gaza the West Bank, Jerusalem and the Golan
Heights, and a Palestinian state will be established. The refugees problem
will be resolved through negotiation in a just and agreed upon manner
and in accordance with UN resolution 194 which allows return of refugees to
Israel and compensation. In return, all Arab states will recognize Israel and
its right to secure borders, will sign peace treaties with her and establish
normal diplomatic relations. Do you agree or disagree to this plan?
1) Certainly agree8.2%
2) agree57.5%
3) disagree24.8%
4) Certainly disagree6.8%
5) DK/NA2.7%
MORE THAN 65% AGREE WITH SAUDI PLAN. BUT ALMOST 32% DISAGREE. IT IS HARD TO MAKE PEACE WITH 2/3 OF THE PEOPLE WHEN THE OTHER 1/3 IS OPPOSED TO PEACE.
28A)There is a proposal that after the establishment of an independent
Palestinian state and the settlement of all issues in dispute,
including the refugees and Jerusalem issues, there will be a mutual recognition of
Israel as the state of the Jewish people and Palestine as the state of the
Palestinians people. Do you agree or disagree to this proposal?
1) Definitely agree5.3%
2) agree51.8%
3) disagree29.8%
4) definitely disagree11.8%
5) DK/NA1.3%
57% AGREE IS GOOD. BUT 41% DISAGREE. SAME QUESTION AS IN #27.
28B)There is a proposal that as part of an Israeli Palestinian final
status agreement there will be a mutual recognition of Israel as the state of
the Jewish people and Palestine as the state of the Palestinian people. Do
you agree or disagree to this proposal?
1) Certainly agree5.5%
2) Agree47.9%
3) Disagree33.3%
4) Certainly disagree12.3%
5) DK/NA0.9%
53% AGREE = GOOD SIGN. BUT ALMOST 46% DISAGREE...BAD SIGN.
29)And what is the Palestinian majority opinion on this issue? Do most
Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza support or oppose the
recognition of Israel as the state of the Jewish people and Palestine as the state of
the Palestinian people at the end of the peace process?
1) Majority supports46.7%
2) Majority opposes41.3%
3) DK/NA12.0%
30)And what is the Israeli majority opinion on this issue? Do most
Israelis support or oppose the recognition of Israel as the state of the Jewish
people and Palestine as the state of the Palestinian people at the end of
the peace process?
1) Majority supports40.1%
2) Majority opposes47.8%
5) DK/NA12.2%
33)Now 40 years after the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the
Gaza Strip, what in your view are the chances for the establishment of an
independent Palestinian state next to the state of Israel in the next
five years? Are they high, medium, low, or none existent?
1) None existent31.1%
2) Low 37.2%
3) Medium24.2%
4) High5.3%
5) DK/NA2.2%
34) And what are your expectations regarding the chances for the
success or failure of the negotiations launched by Annapolis conference? Will it
succeed or fail in ending Israeli occupation?
1) Certainly will succeed0.4%
2) Will succeed13.3%
3) Will fail49.1%
4) Certainly will fail30.8%
5) DK/NA6.4%
35)Concerning armed attacks against Israeli civilians inside Israel, I..
1) Strongly support 27.9%
2) Support 38.6%
3) Oppose 28.2%
4) Strongly oppose 2.7%
5) DK/NA2.7%
66% FAVOR MORE TERRORISM. THAT PRETTY MUCH ENDS ANY CREDIBILITY TO #16.
36)And what about the bombing attack in the religious school in
Jerusalem inside Israel in the first week of the current month of March in which
eight Israeli students were killed in addition to the Palestinian attacker,
do you support or oppose this attack?
1) Certainly support 41.9%
2) Support 41.6%
3) Oppose 12.0%
4) Certainly oppose 1.4%
5) DK/NA3.2%
ALMOST 84% SUPPORT THE MURDER OF TEEN-AGED JEWISH KIDS. THERE MUST BE SOME SORT OF MIS-UNDERSTANDING AMONG THE POLLED PALESTINIANS AS TO WHAT "SUPPORTIVE OF THE PEACE PROCESS" (#16) MEANS.
ON THE OTHER HAND, LET'S RECALL THAT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS WORLD-WIDE BELIEVE THAT THE MOSSAD DID 9/11; YET OSAMA IS THE MOST REVERED AND ADULATED ARAB LEADER IN THE WORLD BECAUSE HE DID 9/11. SO AT LEAST SOME ARABS CAN ENTERTAIN AS EQUALLY VALID MUTUALLY CONTRADICTORY CONCEPTS.
37)And what about the bombing attack in Dimona in Israel in early
February of this year in which one Israeli woman was killed in addition to the
two bombers, do you support or oppose this attack?
1) Certainly support 34.8%
2) Support 42.6%
3) Oppose 16.9%
4) Certainly oppose 1.6%
5) DK/NA4.1%
ALMOST 78% SUPPORT MURDER OF JEWISH WOMEN - SAME COMMENT AS #36.
38)Which of the following political parties do you support?
1) PPP0.6%
2) PFLP3.3%
3) Fateh30.9%
4) Hamas24.7%
5) DFLP0.3%
6) Islamic Jihad2.5%
7) Fida0.1%
8) National Initiative (Mubadara)1. 8%
9) Independent Islamists4.7%
10) Independent Nationalists4. 5%
11) None of the above26.1%
12) Other, specify0.6%
THE SUPPOSEDLY MODERATE FATAH GETS 31%. BUT IF YOU COMBINE HAMAS WITH THE OTHER TERROR GROUPS THAT SHARE ITS AGENDA AND ARE IN FACT EVEN MORE VIRULENT THAN HAMAS, THE PALESTINIAN POPULAR SUPPORT FOR GENOCIDAL TERROR WAR AGAINST ISRAEL (PFLP, DFLP, ISLAMIC JIHAD, INDEPENDENT ISLAMISTS) IS MORE THAN 36%.
AND WHEN YOU RECALL THAT FATAH TOO IS TERRORIST AND HAS AS ONE OF ITS CORNERSTONE PLANKS IN ITS POLITICAL PLATFORM THE UTTER DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL....THEN SUPPORT FOR TERROR PARTIES JUMPS TO 67%.
ONLY A BIT MORE THAN 10% SUPPORT NON-TERRORIST/NON-GENOCIDAL PALESTINIAN PARTIES.
MORE THAN 2/3 OF THE POLLED PALESTINIANS WANT ISRAEL DESTROYED.
URGING ISRAEL TO MAKE MORE CONCESSIONS, CEDE MORE TERRITORY, ASSIST IN ARMING AND TRAINING THE PA POLICE (MANY OF WHOM MOONLIGHT FOR HAMAS) ETC...MERELY HELPS THE GENOCIDAL TERRORISTS ACCOMPLISH THEIR GOALS MORE EFFECTIVELY
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