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Taking Back our Struggle- Taking Back our Identity
by bluetruth •
Wednesday, Oct. 29, 2008 at 3:17 PM
http://www.bluetruth.net/2008/10/taking-back-our-struggle-taking-back.html
Zonism: Taking Back our Struggle- Taking Back our Identity
As a progressive with a long track record of working for individual human rights, my peers often react with shock and disbelief when I publicly express my support for the only country in the Middle east that protects the rights of its gays, minorities and women. Often I'm treated as though I brought veal to a PETA pot luck. Its an uncomfortable feeling, here in "more politically correct than thou" northern California.
On the other hand, it baffles me that my peers so readily and unquestioningly accept the classic fascist regimes of Hamas and Hezbollah. How did this happen? How did repressive, totalitarian regimes come to enjoy liberal support in America , while liberal democracies are rejected?
Sales and Marketing, my dear Watson. Sales and marketing.
Realizing that their articulated goal of driving the Jews into the sea wasn't helping them make friends and influence people, the Palestinians have been employing the rhetoric of victimization to further their agenda.
In History Upside Down, David Meir-Levi writes: Ho Chi Mihn's chief strategist, General Giap, made it clear to Arafat and his lieutenants that in order to succeed, they too needed to redefine the terms of their struggle... "Stop talking about annihilating Israel," advised North Vietnam's General Giap, "and instead turn your terror war into a struggle for human rights. Then you will have the American people eating out of your hand."
At UC Berkeley and on college campuses throughout the country, this approach is being used. "We are talking truth to power" , UC Berkeley lecturer Hatem Batzien said recently to a group gathered to hear Norman Finkelstein and Jon Dugard speak at Boalt Hall. But with 22 Arab nations, with 800 times the land and 50 times the people and with extensive oil wealth, tell me again who exactly is in the position of power?
Arafat was also taught to exploit his situation by Muhammad Yazid, the minister of information in Algeria: "Wipe out the argument that Israel is a small state whose existence is threatened by the Arab states, or the reduction of the Palestinian problem to a question of refugees; instead, present the Palestinian struggle as a struggle for liberation like the others. Wipe out the impression …that the Zionist is the underdog. Now it is the Arab who is oppressed and victimized in his existence because he is not only facing the Zionists but also world imperialism."
This strategy has certainly succeeded, at least on College campuses. How did this happen? Part of the answer is our own complacency. The organized Jewish community allowed our history and our heritage to be redefined for us. We allowed our proud movement of self determination, Zionism, to be turned into a pejorative. We allowed our communities to be refined as "settlements". We allowed our pursuit of a peaceful resolution to a complex issue to be redefined into an "imperialist colonial struggle". We watched the other side frame its history unchallenged- "occupied territories", "siege of Gaza", "ethnic cleansing". Its time to take back our language, our words, our heritage. They are as much a part of our identity as our land.
We need to remind our community that in the present, as well as the not so distant past, the worst enemy of the Palestinian people has been the Palestinian leadership. We need to remind people that destroying Israel is not the way to help the Palestinian people- that the Palestinian people need to be empowered to shake off the yoke of those willing to use them as pawns in this struggle. We need to remind people that true progressives should challenge all those who restrict individual rights and liberties, and that Palestinian despots will not be given a free pass.
www.bluetruth.net/2008/10/taking-back-our-struggle-taking-back.html
Zionism is misunderstood
by Zionism is self determination
Wednesday, Oct. 29, 2008 at 3:19 PM
ZIONISM By Prof. Benyamin Neuberger http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/State/ZIONISM-+Background.htm
A MODERN RENDITION OF AN ANCIENT MOTIF The origin of the term "Zionism" is the biblical word "Zion", often used as a synonym for Jerusalem and the Land of Israel (Eretz Yisrael). Zionism is an ideology which expresses the yearning of Jews the world over for their historical homeland - Zion, the Land of Israel. The aspiration of returning to their homeland was first held by Jews exiled to Babylon some 2,500 years ago - a hope which subsequently became a reality. ("By the water of Babylon, there we sat down and wept when we remembered Zion." Psalms 137:1). Thus political Zionism, which coalesced in the 19th century, invented neither the concept nor the practice of return. Rather, it appropriated an ancient idea and an ongoing active movement, and adapted them to meet the needs and spirit of the times. The core of the Zionist idea appears in Israel's Declaration of Independence (14 May 1948), which states, inter alia, that: "The Land of Israel was the birthplace of the Jewish people. Here their spiritual, religious and political identity was shaped. Here they first attained to statehood, created cultural values of national and universal significance and gave to the world the eternal Book of Books. After being forcible exiled from their land, the people kept faith with it throughout their dispersion and never ceased to pray and hope for their return to it and for the restoration in it of their political freedom."
HISTORICAL LINK BETWEEN THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND ITS LAND The idea of Zionism is based on the long connection between the Jewish people and its land, a link which began almost 4,000 years ago when Abraham settled in Canaan, later known as the Land of Israel. About 1000 BCE, King David made Jerusalem the country's capital and some 40 years later, his son, King Solomon, built there the Temple to the One God, making Jerusalem the spiritual as well as the political center of the nation. Over 400 years of independence under the Davidic dynasty ended in 586 BCE when the country was conquered by the Babylonians, who destroyed the Temple and exiled most of the people. However, before the century was over the Jews returned, rebuilt the Temple and restored Jewish life in the Land. For the next centuries, they knew varying degrees of self-rule under Persian (538-333 BCE) and Hellenistic (322-142 BCE) overlordship, independence under the Hasmonean dynasty (142-63 BCE) and then increasingly oppressive domination by the Romans beginning in 63 BCE. When the Jews were prevented from carrying out their traditional religious way of life, they launched a series of uprisings, which climaxed in the revolt of 66 CE. After four years of fighting, Rome put down the Jewish Revolt and burned the Temple to the ground. Many thousands of Jews were killed, sold into slavery and dispersed to countries near and far. The only remnant of the entire Temple compound was the Western Wall, which became a place of pilgrimage and worship for Jews, and remains so to the present time. In 132 CE, another Jewish revolt, which restored Jewish sovereignty for three years, was cruelly suppressed, claiming thousands of lives. To stamp out the Jewish connection to the Land of Israel, the Romans renamed the country Palaestina. The small Jewish community which remained in the Land gradually recovered. Institutional and communal life was reconstructed to meet the new situation without the unifying framework of the state and the Temple. Priests were replaced by rabbis, and in the absence of a central place of worship, the synagogue became the nucleus of each of the scattered communities. Between 636 and 1096, the Jewish community in the Land diminished considerable and lost some of its organizational and religious cohesiveness, mainly due to increased social and economic discrimination under Arab centuries, reinforced from time to time by Jews returning from the Diaspora, the countries of their dispersion. Aliya (Jewish immigration to the Land of Israel) from North Africa took place in 1191-1198 and a trickle of Jewish refugees from the Spanish Inquisition came in the late 15th century. Others, fleeing pogroms in the Ukraine, came in the mid-17th century. In the same century, a messianic movement arose under Shabbatai Zevi of Izmir with some it its adherents settling in the Land. They were followed in 1700 by hundreds of Hasidic Jews who arrived from Eastern Europe. The flow of aliya in the 18th and the first part of the 19th centuries was significant enough to make the Jews of Jerusalem the largest religious community in the city by 1844. Thus the great waves of Zionist immigration, which began in 1882 and continued throughout the 20th century, were preceded over the years by many small, sporadic influxes of Jews into the country.
BASIC CONCEPTS OF ZIONISM Central to Zionist thought is the concept of the Land of Israel as the historical birthplace of the Jewish people and the belief that Jewish life elsewhere is a life of exile. Moses Hess, in his book "Roma and Jerusalem" (1844) expresses this idea: "Two periods of time shaped the development of Jewish civilization: the first, after the liberation from Egypt, and the second, the return from Babylon. The third shall come with the redemption from the third exile." Over centuries in the Diaspora, the Jews maintained a strong and unique relationship with their historical homeland, and manifested their yearning for Zion through rituals and literature. In prayer, the Jewish worshipper is instructed to face east, towards the Land of Israel. In the morning service, Jews say "Bring us in peace from the four corners of the earth and lead us upright to our land." Worshippers repeatedly recite, "Blessed are You, O Lord, Who builds Jerusalem," and "Blessed are You O Lord, Who returns His presence to Zion." The grace after meals includes a blessing which ends with a prayer for the rebuilding of "Jerusalem, the Holy City, speedily and in our days." In the marriage ceremony, the bridegroom seeks to "elevate Jerusalem to the forefront of our joy." At a circumcision the following is recited from the Psalms "If I forget you, O Jerusalem, may my right hand wither." On Passover, every Jew declares, "Next year in Jerusalem." At times of mourning, the bereaved are comforted with mention of the Land of Israel: "Blessed are You, O Lord, Consoler of Zion and Builder of Jerusalem." The longing of the Jewish people to return to its Land was also expressed in prose and poetry in Hebrew and in other Jewish languages, which evolved over the centuries, Yiddish in Eastern Europe and Ladino in Spain.
ANTISEMITISM AS A FACTOR IN SHAPING ZIONISM While Zionism expresses the historical link binding the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, modern Zionism might not have arisen as an active national movement in the 19th century without contemporary antisemitism considered in a continuum of centuries of persecution. Time and again, the Jews of Europe were persecuted and massacred, sometimes on religious grounds, sometimes for economic reasons, sometimes on social pretexts, and sometimes for national and "racial" rationales. Jews were slaughtered by the Crusaders when the latter made their way across Europe to the Holy Land (11th-12th centuries), massacred during the Black Death for allegedly poisoning wells (14th century), burned at the stake in the Spanish Inquisition (15th century) and murdered by Chmelnicki's Cossacks in the Ukraine (17th century). Hundreds of thousands of Jews were killed by the armies of Danikin and Petlura in the Russian civil war which followed World War I. The most infamous atrocity of all, the Nazi Holocaust in which some six million Jews were systematically annihilated mainly on "racial" grounds, was perpetrated by Germans, in whose country the Jews had made their most serious attempt to achieve acceptance and social assimilation. Over the centuries, Jews were expelled from almost every European country - Germany and France, Portugal and Spain, England and Wales - a cumulative experience which had a profound impact, especially in the 19th century when Jews had abandoned hope of fundamental change in their lives. Out of this milieu came Jewish leaders who turned to Zionism as a result of the virulent antisemitism in the societies surrounding them. Thus Moses Hess, shaken by the blood libel of Damascus (1844), became the father of Zionist socialism; Leon Pinsker, shocked by the progroms (1881-1882) which followed the assassination of Czar Alexander II, assumed leadership in the Hibbat Zion movement; and Theodor Herzl, who as a journalist in Paris experienced the venomous antisemitic campaign of the Dreyfus case (1896), organized Zionism into a political movement. The Zionist movement aimed to solve the "Jewish problem," the problem of a perennial minority, a people subjected to repeated pogroms and persecution, a homeless community whose alienism was underscored by discrimination wherever Jews settled. Zionism aspired to deal with this situation by effecting a return to the historical homeland of the Jews - Land of Israel. In fact, most of the waves of Aliya in the modern age were in direct response to acts of murder and discrimination against Jews. The First Aliya followed pogroms in Russia in the 1880s. The Second Aliya was spurred by the Kishinev pogrom and a string of massacres in the Ukraine and Belorussia at the turn of the century. The Third Aliya occurred after the slaughter of Jews in the Russian civil war. The Fourth Aliya originated in Poland in the 1920s after the Grawski legislation infringed on Jewish economic activity. The Fifth Aliya was composed of German and Austrian Jews fleeing Nazism. After the State of Israel was established (1948), mass immigrations were still linked to discrimination and oppression - Holocaust survivors from Europe, refugees from Arab countries escaping the persecution which followed the establishment of the state, the remnants of Polish Jewry who fled the country when antisemitism reignited at the time of Gomulka and Muzcar, and the Jews of Russia and other former Soviet republic who feared a new spasm of antisemitism with the breakup of the Soviet Union. The history of the waves of Aliya provides strong proof for the Zionist argument that a Jewish state in the Land of Israel, with a Jewish majority, is the only solution to the "Jewish problem."
RISE OF POLITICAL ZIONISM Political Zionism, the national liberation movement of the Jewish people, emerged in the 19th century within the context of the liberal nationalism then sweeping through Europe. This era, which began with a movement in Greece to free itself from the yoke of Ottoman occupation and included national liberation movements in Ireland, Norway, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Italy and later on in the century, Turkey and India, also inspired Zionist leaders, as evidenced by many references to the national struggles of other peoples in the writings of the founders of Zionism. Liberal nationalism usually aspired to two basic goals: liberation from foreign rule, (as in the case of Poland, Greece and Ireland) and national unity in countries which had been partitioned into many political entities (Italy and Germany). Its motto was "A state for every nation, and the entire nation in one state." Zionism synthesized the two goals, liberation and unity, by aiming to free the Jews from hostile and oppressive alien rule and to re-establish Jewish unity by gathering Jewish exiles from the four corners of the world to the Jewish homeland. The rise of Zionism as a political movement was also a response to the failure of the Haskala, the Jewish Enlightenment, to solve the "Jewish problem." According to Zionist doctrine, the reason for this failure was that personal emancipation and equality were impossible without national emancipation and equality, since national problems require national solutions. The Zionist national solution was the establishment of a Jewish national state with a Jewish majority in the historical homeland, thus realizing the Jewish people's right to self-determination. Zionism did not consider the "normalization" of the Jewish condition contrary to universal aims and values. It advocated the right of every people on earth to its own home, and argued that only a sovereign and autonomous people could become an equal member of the family of nations.
ZIONISM: A PLURALISTIC MOVEMENT Although Zionism was basically a political movement aspiring to a return to the Jewish homeland with freedom, independence, statehood and security for the Jewish people, it also promoted a reassertion of Jewish culture. An important element in this reawakening was the revival of Hebrew, long restricted to liturgy and literature, as a living national language, for use in government and the military, education and science, the market and the street. Like any other nationalism, Zionism interrelated with other ideologies, resulting in the formation of Zionist currents and subcurrents. The combination of nationalism and liberalism gave birth to liberal Zionism; the integration of socialism gave rise to socialist Zionism; the blending of Zionism with deep religious faith resulted in religious Zionism; and the influence of European nationalism inspired a rightist-nationalism which also espouse various liberal, traditional, socialist (leftist) and conservative (rightist) leanings.
ZIONISM AND THE "ARAB PROBLEM" Most of the founders of Zionism knew that Palestine (the Land of Israel) had an Arab population (though some spoke naively of "a land without a people for a people without a land") Still, only few regarded the Arab presence as a real obstacle to the fulfillment of Zionism. At that time in the late 19th century, Arab nationalism did not yet exist in any form, and the Arab population of Palestine was sparse and apolitical. Many Zionist leaders believed that since the local community was relatively small, friction between it and the returning Jews could be avoided; they were also convinced that the subsequent development of the country would benefit both peoples, thus earning Arab endorsement and cooperation. However, these hopes were not fulfilled. Contrary to the declared positions and expectations of the Zionist idealogists who had aspired to achieve their aims by peaceful means and cooperation, the renewed Jewish presence in the Land met with militant Arab opposition. For some time many Zionists found it hard to understand and accept the depth and intensity of the dispute, which became in fact a clash between two peoples both regarding the country as their own - the Jews by virtue of their historical and spiritual connection, and the Arabs because of their centuries-long presence in the country. The need to grapple with Arab violence towards the Jewish community and to find the appropriate response to the mounting dispute gave rise to three main approaches to the "Arab problem" within the Zionist movement: minimalism, maximalism and realism. The minimalists held that the land belongs to both peoples; thus Zionism cannot be realized without the prior consent of the other nation. They sought a dialogue with local Arabs and rejected the Zionism establishment's approach based on negotiations with outside powers and the leaders of the Arab states. To secure a Jewish-Arab agreement, the minimalists were willing to renounce the establishment of a Jewish state and accept in its stead a binational state based on social and political parity of Jews and Arabs. At the opposite extreme were the maximalists, who believed that the national struggle between the two peoples would have to be resolved by force. They rejected the presumption of Arab national rights in the Land of Israel, noting that the Arabs had never had a state in Palestine. They saw no need to negotiate with local Arabs, and their hope was to acquire the entire country either through diplomatic contacts with outside powers or by armed force. The realists, who comprised the largest Zionist grouping, were dividing into liberal and socialist subgroups. The realists did not believe it possible to avert altogether a conflict with the Arabs, but thought it possible to attenuate the conflict by taking moderate positions. Like the minimalists, they favored negotiations with local Arabs and supported the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants. However, they were unwilling to compromise on Zionist goals - a Jewish majority in the Land of Israel through unrestricted Aliya, and the establishment of a Jewish state. In contrast to the maximalists, they sought a dialogue with Arabs in Palestine and abroad, and were willing to consider compromises. The socialist realist (represented most prominently by David Ben-Gurion Israel's first prime minister) based their agenda on the belief that a Jewish economy could not develop without Jewish agriculture and industry, and that without an autonomous economy there would be neither a society nor a state. Adherents of this group also advocated respect of Arab rights, and, for many years they believed that the Jewish and Arab proletariat shared a common class interest against the Jewish bourgeoisie and Arab feudalism. However, most of them eventually reached the conclusion that the struggle was one of nationalities, not of classes. During the year 1936-47, the struggle over the Land of Israel grew more intense. Arab opposition became more extreme with the increased growth and development of the Jewish community. At the same time, the Zionist movement felt it necessary to increase immigration and develop the country's economic infrastructure, in order to save as many Jews as possible from the Nazi inferno in Europe. The unavoidable clash between the Jews and the Arabs brought the UN to recommend, on 29 November 1947 - the establishment of two states in the area west of the Jordan River - one Jewish and one Arab. The Jews accepted the resolution; the Arabs rejected it. On May 14, 1948, in accordance with the UN resolution of November 1947, the State of Israel was established.
ZIONISM INTO THE 21ST CENTURY The establishment of the State of Israel marked the realization of the Zionist goal of attaining an internationally recognized, legally secured home for the Jewish people in its historic homeland, where Jews would be free from persecution and able to develop their own lives and identity. Since 1948, Zionism has seen its task as continuing to encourage the "ingathering of the exiles" which at times has called for extraordinary efforts to rescue endangered (physically and spiritually) Jewish communities. It also strives to preserve the unity and continuity of the Jewish people as well as to focus on the centrality of Israel in Jewish life everywhere. Down through the centuries, the wish for the restoration of the Jewish people in the Land of Israel has been a thread binding the Jewish people together. Jews everywhere accept Zionism as a fundamental tenet of Judaism, support the State of Israel as the basic realization of Zionism and are enriched culturally, socially and spiritually by the fact of Israel - a member of the family of nations and a vibrant, creative accomplishment of the Jewish spirit.
www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/State/ZIONISM-+Background.htm
3500 years of Zionism
by 3500 years of Zionism
Wednesday, Oct. 29, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Zionism is the Jewish national movement of rebirth and renewal in the land of Israel - the historical birthplace of the Jewish people. The yearning to return to Zion, the biblical term for both the Land of Israel and Jerusalem, has been the cornerstone of Jewish religious life since the Jewish exile from the land two thousand years ago, and is embedded in Jewish prayer, ritual, literature and culture.
Modern Zionism emerged in the late 19th century in response to the violent persecution of Jews in Eastern Europe, anti-Semitism in Western Europe. Modern Zionism fused the ancient Jewish biblical and historical ties to the ancestral homeland with the modern concept of nationalism into a vision of establishing a modern Jewish state in the land of Israel.
The "father" of modern Zionism, Austrian journalist Theodor Herzl, consolidated various strands of Zionist thought into an organized political movement, advocating for international recognition of a "Jewish state" and encouraging Jewish immigration to build the land.
Today, decades after the actual founding of a Jewish state, Zionism continues to be the guiding nationalist movement of the majority of Jews around the world who believe in, support and identify with the State of Israel. Zionism, the national aspiration of the Jewish people to a homeland, is to the Jewish people what the liberation movements of Africa and Asia have been to their peoples.
History has demonstrated the need to ensure Jewish security through such a homeland. The re-establishment of Jewish independence in Israel, after centuries of struggle to overcome foreign conquest and exile, is a vindication of the fundamental concepts of the equality of nations and of self-determination For more info on Zionism: http://winnipeg.indymedia.org/item.php?17118S http://www.mideastweb.org/zionism.htm http://www.mideastweb.org/zionism.htm http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/State/ZIONISM-+Background.htm http://winnipeg.indymedia.org/item.php?17120S
ZIONISM- Background The origin of the term "Zionism" is the biblical word "Zion", often used as a synonym for Jerusalem and the Land of Israel (Eretz Yisrael). ... http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/State/ZIONISM-+Background.htm
Definition of Zionism http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Zionism/zionism.html What is Zionism? http://www.adl.org/durban/zionism.asp Zionism is beautiful http://www.israpundit.com/2007/?p=6635#more-6635
Zionism and Israel On The Web Zionism and Israel On The Web, A Zionist commentary on Israel, Zionism, Palestine and peace in the middle east. Facts on Zionism and Israel to combat hate, ... http://www.zionismontheweb.org/
History of Zionism http://www.zionismontheweb.org/zionism_history.htm
Zionism - Historical Sources, Documents and texts http://www.zionismontheweb.org/zionism_documents.htm
Zionism, the JNF and Absentee Landlords in Mandate Palestine / Israel http://www.zionismontheweb.org/zionism_palenstinian_absentee_landlords.htm
For more info on Zionism: http://winnipeg.indymedia.org/item.php?17118S
Zionism http://www.mideastweb.org/zionism.htm
Zionism http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/State/ZIONISM-+Background.htm
ZIONISM- Background The origin of the term "Zionism" is the biblical word "Zion", often used as a synonym for Jerusalem and the Land of Israel (Eretz Yisrael). ... http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/State/ZIONISM-+Background.htm
www.adl.org/durban/zionism.asp
reality check
by disgruntled goat
Thursday, Oct. 30, 2008 at 10:58 AM
cleveland, oh
palestinians don't need to pretend that their struggle is a liberation struggle against a brutal oppressor. it's the truth. consult any reputable human rights organization and it will confirm that israel engages in massive human rights violations. consult any reality-based history of israel and you'll find that the zionists have engaged in a pattern of aggressive conquest, murder and expulsion designed to secure for themselves a land that contained no zionists until 130 or so years ago. consult the law books and you'll discover an apartheid regime - in fact, three apartheid regimes: one in occupied palestine, one in israel, and one governing palestinians in exile.
pointing this out is not supporting hamas or hizbullah. i suspect that the views of your northern californian progressive colleagues do not include support for the governance programs of hamas and hizbullah, but support their resistance to israeli apartheid and terrorism.
that would be nothing new. the progressive position in vietnam was to oppose american terrorism without necessarily endorsing the governance program of the vietnamese opposition; in iraq, it was opposing american terrorism without necessarily supporting saddam; in afghanistan, it was opposing american terrorism without necessarily supporting the taliban; in cuba, it's opposing american terrorism without necessarily supporting castro. etc. etc.
So, what else is new?
by Lashawniquka
Thursday, Oct. 30, 2008 at 1:41 PM
"consult any reputable human rights organization and it will confirm that israel engages in massive human rights violations."
So does Hamas. So does Hezbollah. So does the United States. So does Saudi Arabia. So do most nations in the world, but all we ever hear about is Israel, Israel, Israel....
I think people use critisicm of Israel to deflect attention from the shortcomings of the Aarb nations, which have much WORSE records for civil rights.
Think about it- gays are killed, women are killed, minorities are killed- no crimes other than having the audacity to exist in a country with Sharia law.
No one thinks Israel is perfect, but at least Israelis don't kill women for driving, or dating without their fathers permission.
I think all this criticism about Israel is to provide a scapegoat so the Arab people don't have to look INWARD at exactly what is wrong with their society.
From a San Franciscan
by From a San Franciscan
Thursday, Oct. 30, 2008 at 4:15 PM
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"i suspect that the views of your northern californian progressive colleagues do not include support for the governance programs of hamas and hizbullah"
Sadly, it does- at the ANSWER sponsored peace rallies in Northern California, portraits of Nasrallah, and Hamas and Hezbollah flags are all the rage
www.zombietime.com/stop_the_us_israeli_war_8_12_2006/
OUCH! Its scary out there!
by from occupied No. Cal
Friday, Oct. 31, 2008 at 1:15 AM
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This is another photo from Northern california- this is Stephen Pearcy, a wealthy local attorney and mentor to cindy Sheehan, glorifying the man that threatened the genocide of the Jewish people
please, feel free to burn in hell for all eternity
by PrionPartyy
Friday, Oct. 31, 2008 at 11:52 PM
The struggle of Zionists is the murderous theft of Palestinian lands AND convincing western interloapers to support the Zionist's murderous theft of Palestinian lands.
And the identity of Zionists is MURDEROUS THIEVES. For all eternity.
lashawniquka sez it best
by PrionPartyy
Saturday, Nov. 01, 2008 at 12:04 AM
As she/he/it sez...
Palestinians are subhunman untermensh while Zionist, while not prefect MURDEROUS THEIVES of Palestinian lands are clearly supriour beings/ ubbermensch and thus have a birthright of murderous theft of palestinian lands.
At least we are now hearing from Zionist enablers that Zionists DO NOT have to be perfect for the Zionist enablers to appease and support the Zionist's chosen bloodsoaked crusade. Wow, whyat a change in ZIonist shill propaganda.
As for the lead article, it is crap. Pure crap. Nothing but crap. AND the very best ZIonist propagandists can come up with. Which only makes one wonder how stupd/brainwashedprejudiced our parents and grand parents MUST have been to ever buy into such compleat crap.
Can the TV set god really have such power over the braindead masses? No, people really are stupid/prejudiced.
Self Determination for the Jewish and Palestinian peoples
by lee
Tuesday, Nov. 04, 2008 at 1:26 PM
Self Determination for the Jewish and Palestinian peoples http://www.zionismontheweb.org/zionism/zionism.html
Israel's thoughts on self determination for the Jewish and Palestinian peoples, as express in the debate on Self-Determination of the Human Rights Commission of the United Nations.
YAAKOV LEVY (Israel) said the story of the modern State of Israel was to a large extent the story of defending the right of the Jewish people to self-determination in their homeland, and the right to live in peace and security. Israel respected the right of her neighbours, the Arab States and the Palestinians, to self-determination. Israel expected equal and mutual recognition, not only of the de facto existence of the State of Israel but of her right to self-determination. Israel recognized more than 20 years ago, in the framework of the Camp David Accords negotiated in 1978, the Palestinians’ right to self-determination. The Oslo Peace Process was in fact both a recognition and a realization of the Palestinian's right to self-determination. It was only through such a process that both Israelis and Palestinians could hope to realize their legitimate rights to live side by side in peace and security.
At Camp David in July 2000, these issues had been discussed and an agreement with Israel's Palestinian brothers had been so close. An agreement would have given genuine expression to the aspiration of both peoples to live peacefully side-by-side. Unfortunately, as the record clearly showed, it was the Palestinian Authority's leadership's choice not to consummate these negotiations, neither at Camp David nor later at Taba in January 2001, but instead to resort to a course of continuous violence in order to force Israel's hand to make further concessions, contrary to every agreement negotiated and signed between Israelis and Palestinians. Agenda item No.5 on self-determination must not be a cause within the Commission for continuous attacks on Israel and its policy. Israel’s position remained that self-determination must be achieved through direct, peaceful negotiations between two sides.
Source: UN HRC document: HR/CN/1003, 21 March 2003
thanks for being so open
by PrionPartyy
Tuesday, Nov. 25, 2008 at 1:24 AM
So the Zionist crusader's right to self determination includes a birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands to create a jewish state, does it???
Odd, noone else's right to self determination includes a birthright of murderous theft of palestinian lands. The American's right to self determination doesn't include a birthright of murderous theft of palesitnian lands. The Canadian's right to self determination doesn't include a birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands. the Mexican's right to self determiation doesn't include a birthright of murderous theft of palestinian lands. How about the Kurds? Does the Kurd's right to self determination include a birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands???
Seems that you are saying that it is ONLY the Zionist crusader's right to self determiantion that includes a birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands. And that makes your rant a vile and offensive load of SShit!!!
Thanks for being so clear with your vile and offensive load of beliefs.
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