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Bay Area Women in Black-- They Hate Zionism, but Holocaust Deniers are OK
by drmike
Sunday, May. 24, 2009 at 2:40 PM
http://www.bluetruth.net/2009/05/bay-area-women-in-black-they-hate.html
Bay Area Women in Black is known in the San Francisco area for its frequent anti-Israel protests, either on their own or in support of the racist International ANSWER. Despite its self-styled image as a peace group, they have consistently refused to take a position against Palestinian terrorism while they sponsor speakers who call for the destruction of Israel. Now they have sunk to depths previously unplumbed, in their open association with the Holocaust denier community.
BAWIB is, along with the terrorist support network International Solidarity Movement, sponsoring fundraising concerts in Berkeley and Palo Alto by saxophonist Gilad Atzmon. Atzmon is a former Israeli Jew who has renounced his membership in the Jewish people and now supports the far right where it meets up with the extreme left-- at the intersection of paranoid schizophrenia and Jew-hatred known as Holocaust denial.
It's not enough that Atzmon has come up with his own gems such as “American Jews do try to control the world, by proxy” ; “There is no such thing as anti-Semitism”; and “Why is it that the Jews who repeatedly demand that the Christian world should apologize for its involvement in previous persecutions, have never thought that it is about time that they apologized for killing Jesus?” He also is a strong supporter of the Swedish fascist who goes by the pen name of Israel Shamir. Shamir has written that “we need the voices of David Duke…and Pat Buchanan”, and has claimed that Jews have indeed slaughtered Christian children for their blood (the infamous “blood libel” now being vigorously promoted in some Arab countries), and claimed that “Auschwitz was an internment facility, attended by the Red Cross”. Shamir is so toxic that even extremist Israel-haters such as Ali Abuminah, Sue Blackwell and Jeff Halper dissociate themselves from him in their embarrassment at sharing the same agenda. But Atzmon consistently defends Shamir and calls him "a unique and advanced thinker".
Atzmon is also a fan of one Paul Eisen, a far right ideologue in the UK who wrote an article promoting the Holocaust denial revisionism of Ernst Zundel. Atzmon circulated and promoted the article. Atzmon defended his decision on his own website as follows (T is Tony Greenstein, a Marxist anti-Zionist from the UK-- Atzmon is also too far off the grid for him):
"T: By your own admission you are distributing Eisen’s holocaust denial text. G: Holocaust Denial is in itself a Zionist terminology and I refuse to accept it or to use it. T: I understand that you have been distributing Paul Eisen's most recent The Holocaust Wars which denies, in the course of defending Ernest Zundel, that there ever was a holocaust or extermination of European Jewry by the Nazis. G: Mr Greenstein, True, I circulated Paul Eisen's paper. I do believe that argumentative texts must be circulated as widely as possible."
It's bad enough that BAWIB endorses and participates in ANSWER's rallies, which feature overt anti-Semitism. Regarding BAWIB using Atzmon to raise funds for its own efforts to rewrite history, the only phrase that comes to mind is the one which with attorney Joseph Welch challenged the demagoguery and bullying on Senator Joseph McCarthy in 1954: "Have you no sense of decency? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?
wrong on so many levels
by ISMer
Monday, May. 25, 2009 at 5:01 AM
"BAWIB is, along with the terrorist support network International Solidarity Movement"
Is that the same ISM that was set up to support non-violent protest in Occupied Palestine?
As for Atzmon - I'd advise people top go to the source (http://www.gilad.co.uk/) rather than believe the decontextualised snippets presented here.
This matter has already been thrashed out on Indymedia UK:
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/birmingham/2008/02/392188.html
phenomenon
by sandy price
Monday, May. 25, 2009 at 11:19 AM
The list of anti-Israel and holocaust deniers in your article is rife with "turned" Jews. Why/how does that happen?
Bay area women in Black are a racist group
by beware of fake peace groups
Tuesday, May. 26, 2009 at 7:31 PM
Have you seen this? They called the police on a rabbi and his congregation. How bizarre.
http://www.bluetruth.net/2007/05/help-police-theres-group-of-little-kids.html
California crazies are worse that Ohio crazies.
Help! Police! There's a group of little kids singing songs of peace at us! Those of you with a functioning sense of irony would have really enjoyed observing this incident, which took place on Oakland California in April 21. Since the beginning of April, the Bay Area Women in Black have held a silent vigil at a busy streetcorner directly across from a farmer's market. The protest not only the war in Iraq, but also Israel's occupation of the West Bank. Not in and of itself a reason to get alarmed, until one looks into the history of BAWIB-- a group that claims it is pro-peace and denies that it's anti-Israel, yet shows up only to protest against Israel, and never against Arab terror and jihadism. Somehow an anti-terror rally in Berkeley (featuring the remains of Jerusalem Bus 19) in January 2005 was worth their protest, as is the public Israel In The Gardens celebration in San Francisco each year, but the convention of al-Awda--an organization devoted to the destruction of Israel-- in San Francisco last year wasn't worthy of their attention.
Given the overwhelming hypocrisy of this organization, pro-Israel activists from StandWithUs/San Francisco Voice for Israel have been standing across the street in a well-received counterprotest. Not, of course, standing in favor of the occupation, but rather standing clearly in support of Israel's existence as a Jewish state. On April 21, they were joined by dozens of members of Temple Beth Abraham complete with guitar-playing rabbi, singing songs of peace. After standing with the Israel supporters, they proceeded across the street to the opposite corner where the WIB were standing, then continued around the entire intersection. Watch it yourself at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8N67M6Y9AM and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKjtL2kbWBs .
The response of BAWIB? They called the Oakland Police Department! Those little kids singing "Am Yisrael Chai" must have really worried them. Yet, of course, Hamas' use of children to probe Israel's security measures or carry bomb belts doesn't seem to worry them at all.
anti-israel is good
by zionism is bad
Tuesday, May. 26, 2009 at 7:37 PM
Being against israel is a good thing. It even needs to invent its own legitimacy. Since 1947. Please support yourslf with something besides 'bomb belt' hyperboli.
This bomb belt?
by this bomb belt
Tuesday, May. 26, 2009 at 7:41 PM
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This bomb belt? just wondering
another zionist Halloween
by in israel
Tuesday, May. 26, 2009 at 7:45 PM
wow what perfect proof, and talk about authenticity. It's perfect. That zionist take people for total and gullable fools.
mental defective in a posting frenzy
by not posting to myself
Tuesday, May. 26, 2009 at 7:52 PM
The resident mental defective is posting to itself.
anti-israel is good
by zionism is bad Tuesday, May. 26, 2009 at 7:37 PM
Being against israel is a good thing.
It even needs to invent its own legitimacy. Since 1947.
Please support yourslf with something besides 'bomb belt' hyperboli.
add your comments
This bomb belt?
by this bomb belt Tuesday, May. 26, 2009 at 7:41 PM
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This bomb belt?
just wondering
add your comments
another zionist Halloween
by in israel Tuesday, May. 26, 2009 at 7:45 PM
wow what perfect proof, and talk about authenticity. It's perfect.
That zionist take people for total and gullable fools.
more- we want more
by quote more Sheepdog
Tuesday, May. 26, 2009 at 7:56 PM
It's beautiful how that works. And your little graphic of Halloween in israel is very cute also.
mental cripples for Palestine!
by mental cripples for Palestine!
Tuesday, May. 26, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Is the masturbator to a corpse trying to say it wasn't the one that posted to itself?
pay attention, Yada
by help for Yada
Tuesday, May. 26, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Hey, I liked the graphic of your last Halloween party with all the 'terrorist' outfits that even a full member of the al-CIAduh would be proud of. Any more photos of that wild night? Maybe a gaggle of 'terrorists' with those K-Mart rocket launchers? In full regallia posing for the 'candid' photo? I know you have them in your familly album. Let's all have a look.
Photos not seen in mainstream media
by Photos not seen in mainstream media
Wednesday, May. 27, 2009 at 2:04 PM
Photos not seen in mainstream media because they want to portray the "Palestinians" as sympathetic not blood thirsty war mongers but the truth does come out.
This Palestinian?
by This Palestinian?
Wednesday, May. 27, 2009 at 3:37 PM
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Yeah, they teach hate before the kids are even weaned. Thats why there isn't going to be peace anytime soon.
This Palestinian?
by might be this one
Wednesday, May. 27, 2009 at 4:04 PM
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Might be this one.
might be this one
by might be this one
Wednesday, May. 27, 2009 at 5:01 PM
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might be this one
yeah, stuff like that
by the good stuff
Wednesday, May. 27, 2009 at 10:42 PM
we may never see it on the media but here, the loons of zionism collect and tailor these precious photos for all to see again and yet again in case anyone has missed it. Need I say preposterous? But... Good lighting and blocking in all of the candid [wink ] graphic displays, there. Who does the lighting, by the way?
leftists are fakers
by leftists are fakers
Wednesday, May. 27, 2009 at 11:13 PM
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Leftists care about women's rights. That is, until a woman's rights are violated, and then they drop to their knees and slurp like someone had just crawled out of the desert and found water.
oh no, believe me
by I wish it was Yada being hung
Wednesday, May. 27, 2009 at 11:23 PM
I've seen them in Lompoc, Ca, standing silently and bravely on a street corner in that right wing city right next to Vandenburg AFB leftests? Polemics will drive you into your mind Yada. What does a hanging have to do with israeli genocide in which these brave women in black stand in deafening silence? Israel even executes children. Check it out
more babbling from the nursing home
by not a mental defective
Wednesday, May. 27, 2009 at 11:29 PM
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Is there anyone here that can decipher the rambling idiocy of that terrorist fellator?
""I've seen them in Lompoc, Ca, standing silently and bravely on a street corner in that right wing city right next to Vandenburg AFB
leftests?
Polemics will drive you into your mind Yada.
What does a hanging have to do with israeli genocide in which these brave women in black stand in deafening silence?
Israel even executes children.
Check it out""
Fig leafs for terrorists
by Fig leafs for terrorists
Thursday, May. 28, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Women in Black and the other naive, feel good lefty types simply provide a fig leaf of respectibility for terrorists. I've seen them standing next to screaming Jihadis chanting "the Jews are our dogs".
"the Jews are our dogs"
by not a certified mental defective
Thursday, May. 28, 2009 at 3:21 PM
No doubt the resident drooling fuckwit would defend it.
Not that anyone would be able to understand a single syllable the babbling freak said, of course.
Yada quotes itself- wow....
by Stnading for Peace, not racism
Friday, May. 29, 2009 at 6:44 AM
And cults that exploit the same crime they created is even more dangerous. Women in Black are silent and courageous, their presence a nagging and irritating conscience in a sea of indoctrination & propaganda that tries to promote hate. They promote justice.
"They promote justice"
by not a sloganeering fuckwit
Friday, May. 29, 2009 at 8:32 AM
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What is "justice", beyond being a worn out slogan for those who fear soap? Does Mother Gaia know "justice"?
poff topic graphics for children
by keep at it Yada, doing good here
Friday, May. 29, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Even being silent, these Women in Black speak with more reason than the nutbags of zionism. Examine Yada's obsessive, spastic posts. scroll up and see the psychopathy and inanity from the classic zionist. Can you say "incomprehensibly insane" ? I know you can.
the fuckwit was asked a specific question
by send shitferbrains to Palestine
Friday, May. 29, 2009 at 12:50 PM
The dimwitted bastard was asked to describe what his pet slogan of the hour was, and he didn't. It figures.
Send the babbling sack of shit to Palestine.
Thanks?
by wowzers
Friday, May. 29, 2009 at 12:59 PM
again a demonstration of spastic obsession w/o substance putting rather a good light on The Women in Black, by comparison.
send shitferbrains to Palestine
by send shitferbrains to Palestine
Friday, May. 29, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Send the babbling sack of shit to Palestine, along with the Cunts in Black.
Terrorist fellators all.
as an israeli fellator-
by -Yada should know about this
Friday, May. 29, 2009 at 1:12 PM
No one could give head to israel like a zionist. it what they do. very well when they aren't pissing on their moral superiors, like the Women in Black. scroll up and see.
morally superior
by send shitferbrains to Palestine
Friday, May. 29, 2009 at 1:19 PM
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No, *this* unbathed cadaver is morally superior.
Makes you wanna masturbate, ain't that right, you babbling mental defective?
I agree
by ed's got it right
Friday, May. 29, 2009 at 1:22 PM
there *is* no content to the rants of this camper. Certainly not anything of sanity to support the scree against the women in Black.
send shitferbrains to Palestine
by not an unbathed cadaver
Friday, May. 29, 2009 at 1:32 PM
shitferbrains, who really really wants to get in those panties of the unbathed cadaver, said "They promote justice".
That same shitferbrains was asked "what is justice?" Can it answer it now?
Let's help the pathetic brain dead bastard along. If a volcano erupus, killing thousands of people, are they "innocent"? Is Holy Mother Gaia a murderer? What "justice" could a pathetic brain dead bastard elecit from it's very own Holy Mother Gaia?
"justice" is a conceptual wisp of air coming out of the asshole of a sloganeering fuckwit.
chuckle...
by *not* a few things heh heh
Friday, May. 29, 2009 at 1:35 PM
I'm not worried as long as we never see anything to support the flawed accusation and propaganda of this thread, side from frothing lunacy...
answer the question, fuckwit
by answer the question, shitferbrains
Friday, May. 29, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Put your money where your mouth is, asswipe. You said they promote "justice", and we want to know what that means.
Being a dimwitted fuckwit isn't good enough. Explain yourself.
here's what it means
by an answer
Friday, May. 29, 2009 at 1:50 PM
justice is the quality and consequence of truth. I'm just a dog but I still believe that justice is served by truth and injustice is fed by lies and the resultant hate it generates.
as a species, we should reach for truth; justice will occur of its own course. Isn't this the reason this IMC is being assaulted by zionist propaganda devoid of truth? To frustrate justice.
"justice is the quality and consequence of truth"
by say anything, shitferbrains
Friday, May. 29, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Just when you thought a mental defective couldn't get any lower...
What in the hell does "justice is the quality and consequence of truth" mean? Perhaps there's some sort of intrinsic value to a babbling fuckwit, and that's the point - it's the truth, the reality, of a babbling fuckwit.
Oh well, my truth, my reality, is that Palestinians are wastes of skin.
zionism and truth
by don't go together
Friday, May. 29, 2009 at 2:05 PM
here's the deal Yada will call me names and call me a liar w/o any thing to suppoort its opinions and fixations. and that's all
say anything, shitferbrains
by say anything, shitferbrains
Friday, May. 29, 2009 at 2:07 PM
It looks like the babbling fuckwit is about to cry.
back to work
by worker
Friday, May. 29, 2009 at 7:10 PM
Where is any evidence of anything the lead article infers? I don't see any. Show me.
"justice is the quality and consequence of truth"
by keep on truckin'!
Monday, Jun. 08, 2009 at 6:15 PM
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justice is the quality and consequence of truth.
So who has the market cornered on "truth"? Would anyone pay two dollars and 50 cents for the babbling of a schizophrenic?
"truth" is like assholes. Everybody has one.
such lucidity & insight!
by Lucifer's Familiar
Monday, Jun. 08, 2009 at 6:46 PM
the last post is from a mental giant who answers "say anything shitferbrains" and other drooling, fuckwit, sloganeering catch phrases for israeli fellators. Can't touch the topic, however. The topic is slander from this paranoia piece without substance. But mostly paranoia towards of critism.
"The topic is slander from this paranoia piece"
by say anything, shitferbrains
Monday, Jun. 08, 2009 at 6:55 PM
No, shitferbrains, the topic is Holocaust denial, and how the unbathed cunts give it a pass.
show me
by lacking
Monday, Jun. 08, 2009 at 7:10 PM
no it's about zionism's raging paranoia and slander. I made no mistake. You haven't toutched the 'evidence' and can only parrot insults. This pleases me much.
for the mentally impaired
by say anything, shitferbrains
Monday, Jun. 08, 2009 at 7:34 PM
Are you also a Scientologist, shitferbrains? Well, no matter, here's the actual title of the thread, you pathetic Scientologist wannabe.
"Bay Area Women in Black-- They Hate Zionism, but Holocaust Deniers are OK"
There was no HolyCo$t
by Jews are LIARS
Monday, Jun. 08, 2009 at 8:15 PM
So, why do people believe in the holocaust?
Most people have been shown the film footage taken by American/British propaganda teams who accompanied troops as they liberated the Bergen, Belsen, Buchenwald, and Dachau concentration camps.
The footage, especially from the Belsen camp, features large numbers of emaciated prisoners and corpses.
At this point, nearly everyone is deliberately (mis)led to the (false) conclusion that Jews were exterminated by gas chambers.
That this conclusion is false, is clear, if you are aware of the universally agreed fact, that there were no extermination camps in Germany. Even the extremist, Simon Wiesenthal, admitted this (in a letter to the respected British periodical Books and Bookmen, April 1975, p5, where he says "there were no extermination camps on German soil..."). No historian, Jew or otherwise, any longer claims that there were extermination camps in Germany (the Jew historians still claim that there were extermination camps, but now they claim that they were all located in Poland).
In particular, this means that there was no genocide, and no gas-chambers, at the camps Bergen, Belsen, Buchenwald or Dachau (as these camps were in Germany).
So, the above mentioned film footage from these German camps cannot be evidence for genocide, because, according to ALL the historians, there were no extermination camps in Germany
Clearly then, this US film footage DOES NOT (contrary to what you are told), and NEVER DID, prove genocide of Jews.
So, the emaciated prisoners and corpses shown in the US film footage, had to have some other cause, or causes.
In fact, the other causes have long been known, but hidden by the Jews. Generally, the Germans managed to adequately feed the prisoners of the concentration camps, even with the transport system under sustained attack. Many photos are available which show thousands of reasonably well-fed prisoners. For example, this photo from Dachau (taken on liberation):
Or, this photo from Buchenwald (taken on liberation).
Or, this photo from Birkenau (Auschwitz) taken on liberation.
What actually happened, was that procedures aimed at holding various diseases in check, broke down under the pressures of war. The main killer was disease, in particular, Typhus.
Typhus is spread by lice. Zyklon-B was an insecticide used to kill the lice that spread Typhus. The Typhus epidemics that raged through the camps (in both the first and second world wars) killed many thousands. If you suffer from Typhus, your body wastes away and you look as if you are starving to death. Typhus, is the reason for most of the severely emaciated prisoners and corpses.
Typhus, explains the mixture of severely emaciated prisoners and healthy prisoners. Those who caught the disease, became severely emaciated, and often died, those who didn't, remained reasonably healthy prisoners.
A political prisoner at Belsen, stated:
"Towards the end of February 1945 my own situation changed completely.
By that time typhus had become a serious danger for the whole camp. It was the species of typhus which is transmitted by lice. At one time all the transports which arrived at Belsen had had to pass through a "human laundry" and this disinfection seems to have been effective enough to keep the camp free from lice until the autumn of 1944.
At the end of October a big transport had, for the first time, been admitted to the camp without being disinfected, because there had been some damage to the machinery of the shower-baths. Unfortunately the people of this transport were louse carriers, and from that day the lice gradually spread over the whole camp. [...] Typhus broke out in Camp I about the end of January. At first there were only a few cases, but a month later a dozen had appeared, and it became impossible to check the disease [...]."
From "Belsen Uncovered," Duckworth, London, 1946, by Derrick Sington, pages 117-118.
Of course, this unchecked Typhus epidemic, meant that the death rate at Belsen, was very high, and that there were plenty of emaciated prisoners and corpses to film, in order to feed the lie, that Jews had been systematically exterminated.
A few more reasonably well-fed Dachau inmates (photo taken on liberation).
And, some emaciated corpses at Dachau (photo taken on liberation).
Some emaciated corpses at Buchenwald (photo taken on liberation). This should be compared to the reasonably well-fed Buchenwald prisoners, pictured above.
say anything, shitferbrains
by say anything, shitferbrains Scientologist
Monday, Jun. 08, 2009 at 8:23 PM
So, a fuckwit screams "Jews are LIARS", and expects someone to believe it's "evidence".
But hey, word on the street is that some Palestinian whore kept her clit another night. You be da Savior, shitferbrains!
you're the fuckwit doing it
by not fooled by zionits
Tuesday, Jun. 09, 2009 at 8:15 AM
But you're the fuckwit who posted the "Jews are LIARS" in order to attack your own strawman. Did you believe that ever fooled anyone? You're the only twisted, obsessive psycho, here.
"But you're the fuckwit who posted..."
by say anything, shitferbrains
Tuesday, Jun. 09, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Sure, shitferbrains, being as you're a documented terrorist sympathizer, we'll believe you.
Spanish Spam is apparently off...now
by yep
Tuesday, Jun. 09, 2009 at 9:49 AM
well, you're the obsessive html freak who is spamming the holy crap out of this newawire with your rabid bat zionist blog C&P when you're not spamming the auto-spanish crap, not me, ya twit. This is old stuff, shitferbrains. Try something else besides your trademark graphics lunacy and html wank pieces. After your Torrett's episodes.
Whats with this racist crap?
by Huh?
Tuesday, Jun. 09, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Whats with all this racist crap- oh wait- I get it- is all the holocaust denial stuff in honor of Gilad Atzmon? Just wondering.....
Cunts in Black ignore the burka
by say anything, shitferbrains
Wednesday, Jun. 10, 2009 at 10:59 PM
We are still waiting for the resident terrorist sympathizer, known as shitferbrains, jilted groupie of indymedia editor johnk, to explain why the Cunts in Black and the Code pinkos ignore the burka, why they don't march in the streets against the medieval misogyny that is Islam, why they don't defend the rights of women to keep their clitoris, etc.
Why doesn't the mental defective speak of the quality and consequence of truth about the insane cult of Islam?
we can all see it now...
by zionazi psychos
Thursday, Jun. 11, 2009 at 8:53 AM
We all can see why Women in Black, hate zionism. Yada is doing a real bang up job showing us all why. They are dangerous and disturbed individuals who depend on screes, not rational discussion.
I want to keep my clitoris!
by say anything, shitferbrains
Thursday, Jun. 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Why doesn't the mental defective speak of the quality and consequence of truth about the insane cult of Islam?
put up or shut up, shitferbrains
by put up or shut up, shitferbrains
Monday, Jun. 15, 2009 at 8:40 PM
Where's the pictures of the starving Gazans, shit for brains?
"reports" from the Agency responsible for Food for Oil, the IPCC "global warming" hysteria, and last but not least, the United Nations rape gangs, signifies shit.
There was no HoyCo$t
by There was no HoyCo$t
Sunday, Jun. 28, 2009 at 10:41 AM
There was no HoyCo$t
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