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Puzzled in Gaza… Not if you know about Pallywood

A devastating account of an eye-witness to the scene in Gaza which contradicts every impression the Western MSM gave, from the high civilian casualties, the infrastructure devastation, the intensification of support for Hamas, the humanitarian crisis. Yvonne Green, a poetess, may have been puzzled on viewing a largely intact Gaza Strip of inhabitants terrorized by rather than supportive of Hamas, but those who paid close attention, are not. (H/T: MHB)

Mar 2, 2009 20:58 | Updated Mar 2, 2009 21:10
Puzzled in Gaza
By YVONNE GREEN

I’m a poet, an English Jew and a frequent visitor to Israel. Deeply disturbed by the reports of wanton slaughter and destruction during Operation Cast Lead, I felt I had to see for myself. I flew to Tel Aviv and on Wednesday, January 28, using my press card to cross the Erez checkpoint, I walked across the border into Gaza where I was met by my guide, a Palestinian journalist. He asked if I wanted to meet with Hamas officials. I explained that I’d come to bear witness to the damage and civilian suffering, not to talk politics.

A Palestinian man holds bags of rice before their distribution to Palestinians at a United Nations food distribution center in Sha’ati refugee camp in Gaza City.

What I saw was that there had been precision attacks made on all of Hamas’ infrastructure. Does UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon criticize the surgical destruction of the explosives cache in the Imad Akhel Mosque, of the National Forces compound, of the Shi Jaya police station, of the Ministry of Prisoners? The Gazans I met weren’t mourning the police state. Neither were they radicalized. As Hamas blackshirts menaced the street corners, I witnessed how passersby ignored them.

THERE WERE empty beds at Shifa Hospital and a threatening atmosphere. Hamas is reduced to wielding its unchallengeable authority from extensive air raid shelters which, together with the hospital, were built by Israel 30 years ago. Terrorized Gazans used doublespeak when they told me most of the alleged 5,500 wounded were being treated in Egypt and Jordan. They want it known that the figure is a lie, and showed me that the wounded weren’t in Gaza. No evidence exists of their presence in foreign hospitals, or of how they might have gotten there.

From the mansions of the Abu Ayida family at Jebala Rayes to Tallel Howa (Gaza City’s densest residential area), Gazans contradicted allegations that Israel had murderously attacked civilians. They told me again and again that both civilians and Hamas fighters had evacuated safely from areas of Hamas activity in response to Israeli telephone calls, leaflets and megaphone warnings.

Seeing Al-Fakhora made it impossible to understand how UN and press reports could ever have alleged that the UNWRA school had been hit by Israeli shells. The school, like most of Gaza, was visibly intact. I was shown where Hamas had been firing from nearby, and the Israeli missile’s marks on the road outside the school were unmistakeable. When I met Mona al-Ashkor, one of the 40 people injured running toward Al-Fakhora - rather than inside it as widely and persistently reported - I was told that Israel had warned people not to take shelter in the school because Hamas was operating in the area, and that some people had ignored the warning because UNWRA previously told them that the school would be safe. Press reports that fatalities numbered 40 were denied.

I WAS TOLD stories at Samouni Street which contradicted each other, what I saw and later media accounts. Examples of these inconsistencies are that 24, 31, 34 or more members of the Fatah Samouni family had died. That all the deaths occurred when Israel bombed the safe building it had told 160 family members to shelter in; the safe building was pointed out to me but looked externally intact and washing was still hanging on a line on one of its balconies. That some left the safe building and were shot in another house. That one was shot when outside collecting firewood. That there was no resistance - but the top right hand window of the safe building (which appears in a BBC Panorama film Out of the Ruins” aired February 8) has a black mark above it - a sign I was shown all day of weaponry having been fired from inside. That victims were left bleeding for two or three days.

Note that this incident is the one cited by Bill Moyers in defense of his anti-Semitic remarks about violence against the Palestinian- Canaanites being in the DNA of Judaism. Even at the time, it had the Pallywood signature. And of course, the folks on the “Palestinian side” eagerly believed it all.

I saw large scoured craters and a buckled container which appeared to have been damaged by an internal impact (its external surfaces were undamaged). Media accounts of Samouni Street don’t mention these possible indications of explosive caches (although the container is visible on media footage). The Samouni family’s elder told me during a taped interview that he had a CD film of the killings. As far as I’m aware, no such film has been made public. He also told me that there are members of his family who have still not been found.

The media have manufactured and examined allegations that Israel committed a war crime against the Samounis without mentioning that the family are Fatah and that some of its members are still missing. They have not considered what might flow from those facts: that Hamas might have been active not only in the Samouni killings but in the exertion of force on the Samounis to accuse Israel.

THE GAZA I saw was societally intact. There were no homeless, walking wounded, hungry or underdressed people. The streets were busy, shops were hung with embroidered dresses and gigantic cooking pots, the markets were full of fresh meat and beautiful produce - the red radishes were bigger than grapefruits. Mothers accompanied by a 13-year-old boy told me they were bored of leaving home to sit on rubble all day to tell the press how they’d survived. Women graduates I met in Sajaya spoke of education as power as old men watched over them.

No one praised their government as they showed me the sites of tunnels where fighters had melted away. No one declared Hamas victorious for creating a forced civilian front line as they showed me the remains of booby trapped homes and schools.

From what I saw and was told in Gaza, Operation Cast Lead pinpointed a totalitarian regime’s power bases and largely neutralized Hamas’s plans to make Israel its tool for the sacrifice of civilian life.

Corroboration of my account may be found in tardy and piecemeal retractions of claims concerning the UNWRA school at Al-Fakhora; an isolated acknowledgment that Gaza is substantially intact by The New York Times; Internet media watch corrections; and the unresolved discrepancy between the alleged wounded and their unreported whereabouts.

The writer is a poet and freelance writer who lives in London. Her collection Boukhara was a 2008 Smith/Doorstop prize winner. She also translates the poetry of Semyon Lipkin, the Russian World War II poet.

March 2, 2009

By JOSEF FEDERMAN,

JERUSALEM – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for the first time will endorse the notion of a Palestinian state alongside Israel, top aides said Sunday, giving in to heavy U.S. pressure to drop his long-standing opposition to Palestinian independence.

Netanyahu, however, will demand that the Palestinians agree not to have an army and that they recognize Israel as the Jewish state — a condition widely seen as forcing Palestinian refugees to give up their dream of returning to lost properties in Israel.

Netanyahu planned to outline his vision in a major policy speech later Sunday. "He will call for a Palestinian state without an army, side by side with the Israeli state," said Netanyahu's press secretary, Nir Hefetz. Another aide, speaking on condition of anonymity pending the speech, confirmed the details of Netanyahu's plan.

It was not clear whether Netanyahu's conditions would be acceptable to the Palestinians. In particular, they have objected to recognizing Israel as a Jewish state, saying it would amount to giving up the rights of millions of refugees and be discriminatory to Israel's own Arab minority.

It also was not known how much captured land Netanyahu would be willing to cede to Palestinian control. The Palestinians demand all of the West Bank as part of a future state, with east Jerusalem as their capital. Israel captured both areas in the 1967 Mideast war.

Netanyahu, leader of the hardline Likud Party, has historically opposed withdrawing from the lands, for both security and ideological reasons. Netanyahu has said he fears that Palestinian militants will use the West Bank to stage attacks on Israel, much the way Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip have fired thousands of rockets into Israel since it withdrew from that territory in 2005.

Despite all the uncertainty, his support for a Palestinian state would mark a major change of heart for the hardline Israeli leader, who has been caught between American demands for him to begin peace talks with the Palestinians and the constraints of a hardline coalition.

Israeli TV stations speculated that Netanyahu would reach out to the moderate Kadima Party, if his current coalition falls apart because of hardline opposition.

well then...
by Then, Tear Down Your Walls Sunday, Jun. 14, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Okay there!
Independence!
Freedom to travel and trade in and out of their country and freedom to have their elected leadership control their own borders
Freedom to have an Army with tactical nuclear weapons and delivery systems like their good next door neighbor, Israel. Just to keep it friendly.
I like Independence.

No, what you like is terrorist cock.

stop projecting your homosexual fantasies on others when you cannot refute the comment. It only showcases your own fetishes.
In an attempt to avoid the issue while trying to bring the discussion down in the gutter with you.
The zionist stooge who wrote this silly propaganda piece is not credible.
The political baggage she carries as "Tony Blair's SISTER IN LAW" is telling as these political wanks are under great pressure to buff the terd of israel.
And your favorite sources
From the eder of zion and bluetruth?
Your entries are from lunatic blogs in the ziomut wankasphere.
Do you know what primary sources from vetted, credible news outlets are?
Oh, that's right, you can't use them.

Such mindless babbling. Can anyone understand it?

you can't ubderstand the concept of "primary sources from vetted, credible news outlets"
didn't think so.

Wait a minute. Aren't you the pathetic brain dead bastard that wanted us to blindly accept whatever showed up on a search of "dancing israelis"? YouTube videos and fecal matter from Alex Jones and other "truther" sites?

How fucking stupid can you continue to be without eventually choking on your own vomit? Why must we keep waiting?

good question
by do a search on 5 Dancing Israelis Monday, Jun. 15, 2009 at 3:52 PM

and see what I mean.
Talk about celebration.
What were they here to "record"?
thanks for reminding us all.

You will note that the mental defective was reminded of the crap found from a search, and shitferbrains turns right around and parrots its nonsense again.

shit

for

brains

sure...
again
do a search
5 Dancing Israelis
in any search engine.
See for yourself the involment of the mossad in 9-11

You love been bitchslapped, don't you? What's the matter, won't the orderlies even give you the time of day anymore?

What can we find on a search? What kind of shit site is "whatreallyhappened"? 'killtown" "conspiracyplanet"? "indymedia" damn sure signifies nothing. "google groups" mean nothing either. And then there's "abovetopsecret", where people talk about UFO's.

There's the various YouTube videos, as was already spoken of.

So, shitferbrains, what was your point? All you really wanted was your nose to be bloodied again, wasn't it? That's how nessie was.

In an interview on Israeli televison, they said they were there to "record the event" so how did they know about it?
5 Dancing Israelis

again with the staged and stupid photos they think means something besides zionuts dressing up their little jhadists for trick or treat.
"smile son" -click-

Hamas kindergarten graduation.
A classic.
What people teach 5 year olds to use automatic weapons?
Only the Palestinians

never get tired of meaningless, photos with improvised captions?
It could read Halloween in paranoid land & their kids.

How can you see anything with Arafat's nuts covering your eyes?

someone else do it
getting more stupid by the minute aren't you?
Drinking again?

Where's the pictures of the starving Gazans, shit for brains?

Where is Blair's sister in law on this thread? And why doesn't Aryan fecal matter understand that Blair's sister in law is a fellow Jew hater? Can Aryans ever be pleased?

http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2009/06/42516_comment.php#42607

"The zionist stooge who wrote this silly propaganda piece is not credible.
The political baggage she carries as "Tony Blair's SISTER IN LAW" is telling as these political wanks are under great pressure to buff the terd of israel."

HISTORY TEST
Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the
following multiple choice test. The events are actual
cuts from past history. They actually happened!!!

Do you remember?

-1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by
a. Superman
b. Jay Lenno
c. Harry Potter
d. Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17
and 40

1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were
kidnapped and massacred by
a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages
of 17 and 40

2. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages
of 17 and 40

3.During the 1980's a number of Americans were
kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages
of 17 and 40

4. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was
blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages
of 17 and 40

5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was
hijacked and a 70 year old American
passenger was murdered and thrown
overboard in his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages
of 17 and 40

6.In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens,
and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers
was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages
of 17 and 40

7.In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages
of 17 and 40

8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the
first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages
of 17 and 40

9.In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania
were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from
Wild Bill' s women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages
of 17 and 40

10.On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two
were used as missiles to take out the World
Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one
crashed into the US Pentagon and the other
was diverted and crashed by the passengers.
Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and
Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages
of 17 and 40

11.In 2002 the United States fought a war in
Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages
of 17 and 40

12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped
and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages
of 17 and 40

Nope, .....I really don't see a pattern here to justify
profiling, do you?

So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone,
particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport
security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile
certain people. They must conduct random searches
of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with
proper identification, secret agents who are members
of the President's security detail, 85-year old
Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor
winning and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim
Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone because of
profiling.

5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was
hijacked and a 70 year old [ Jrewish ] American
passenger was murdered and thrown
overboard in his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim males-
E. Mossad
***
E is the correct answer

A Mossad Miss - Books: Israeli intelligence may have stumbled ...
Victor Ostrovsky, a 40-year-old Canadian-born Israeli, catapulted into the headlines--and ... the mastermind behind the Achille Lauro hijacking, to justice . ...
articles.latimes.com/1990-09.../vw-1751_1_victor-ostrovsky
or
Ari Ben-Menashe, a former IDF arms dealer, said in his 1992 book, Profits of War , that the Achille Lauro operation had been ordered and funded by Mossad. ...
judicial-inc.biz/Archille_Lauro.htm

I bet the that was only one of many false flag mossad 'greatest hits'

Ony Aryan fecal matter would post anything from the likes of a web site such as "judicial-inc.biz".

listen to it
by try and scurry- the light's on Friday, Jun. 26, 2009 at 1:46 PM

oh there are many references to this event.
But the witnesses and inside people are well known. Sue the publishers if you have some kind of problem with it.
And this from some snot-bot who posts almost exclusively from the wankosphere of zionazi blogs.

Ony Aryan fecal matter would post anything from the likes of a web site such as "judicial-inc.biz".

like I said... this is from a zionazi who can't find support for the paranoia and hate, outside of a zionazi blog like edersofzionazilandofrant.com

Only Aryan fecal matter would post anything from the likes of a web site such as "judicial-inc.biz".

How fucking stupid can you continue to be without eventually choking on your own vomit? Why must we keep waiting?

Still waiting for an answer.

Only Aryan fecal matter would post anything from the likes of a web site such as "judicial-inc.biz".

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